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Old 08-18-2013, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bar's Products, my Vitara is gone due to Bar's # 1111

I own a Suzuki Vitara 2003 XL with 102 K miles on it
I had a minor coolant leaks for the last 45 days, but it wasn’t bad at all
But, I have to work on different shifts and no time to take my car to the mechanic (date the coolant leaks started June 15, 2013)
So, one night, I went to the net looking for a solution on my car and came across the Bar’s Products
Bar’s Websites described enthusiastically experiences on people using the product and I took them like real facts
I live 10 blocks away from the freeway, the only freeway I always use to go to work
After, I bought the products and start reading the instructions, I found that my car qualifies without problem to use the Bar’s head gasket, manufactured by Bar’s Products
The instructions indicates, the product is compatible with a all kind of coolants and also with any color
Finally, I decided to give this product a try. After I added it to the coolant reservoir and turned the heater on to MAX, I started the engine and let it the runs for at least 20 minutes. No indication of engine temperature going to the hot area. I turned the ignition off and let the car engine to cool off.
One hour later, I started driving the car on the freeway for about 5 miles. At that time the traffic was light and drove slowly to finally reach 50 miles per hour. I was watching the temperature gauge, but all of a sudden it went up, so I pulled over to cool the engine to later drive back to my home, but after the first engine cool off followed more stops and that leads to the Highway Patrol to stop behind me and asked questions. I was told that I couldn’t leave the car in the freeway and if the car was not driveable, I must call a towing truck, which I did at a cost of $65.00. The car always smell overheated and the towing truck driver told me the same thing
The next morning. I called my mechanic explaining the situation and he send me a towing truck.
The mechanic was busy and told me to leave the car until the next day. The next day in the afternoon, I went to speak with the mechanic and the mechanic told me about all the problems caused by Bar’s bottle to repair head gasket
My water pump was al screwed and clogged, clogged heater core, clogged radiator and thermostat.
He told me that he could replaced all the parts, but there was a risk of having damages on the engine, as happened to others customers with different cars, driving VW, Asian or European cars
The mechanic told me that it will cost $ 2,135 to replaced all those parts, including heater core, but he said that he was 100% sure that the engine was gone, because of noticeable piston slapped and engine overheating that happened after adding Bar’s product. An extra $ 5,878 to put a new engine on my Vitara car
The mechanic was taking care of my car for the last 5 years and he knew my car quit well and the car was in prime condition, with all the services done every 3,000 miles
The towing truck took my car home and started the engine for less than 1 minute and I heard the same piston problem as I heard when the Highway Patrol stopped me. So the engine is gone for lack of water/coolant circulation, besides that, I noticed, before I took my car to the mechanic that the car was leaking more coolant than ever before. So Bar’s made everything worse

I contacted Bar’s by letters, but no reply from Bar’s, not even a word
I’m looking at others complaints as well and as things evolve, I will bring a lot more information

Some people try to shut up me and deleted my information on Bar's Products failure. Those people are protecting Bar's interests, even when Bar's causes big damages to cars
Do they practice corruption and kick out people, when something is affecting their unspeakable intentions?
The US is built on justice, and should not be taken by extremist like that


Bar’s Products website and all its claims on Bar's head gasket fix 1111
Bar's Leaks Head Gasket Fix combines antifreeze-compatible sodium silicate sealing liquid and various-size gasket-sealing particles to stop head gasket coolant leaks without draining the cooling system. Product Features: For use on water-cooled gasoline and diesel engines, Heavy-duty formula works on aluminum and cast-iron heads and blocks; also repairs head gaskets, cylinder heads, intake gaskets, cracked blocks and freeze plugs, Compatible with virtually all types of antifreeze, including conventional silicate-based green and blue and extended-life red/orange and yellow (OAT/HOAT) coolant, Gasket-sealing particles penetrate gaps and cracks and harden to permanently stop leaks without draining the cooling system, 1 bottle treats up to a4-gallon cooling capacityBar's Leaks Head Gasket Fix combines antifreeze-compatible sodium silicate sealing liquid and various-size gasket-sealing particles to stop head gasket coolant leaks without draining the cooling system. Product Features: For use on water-cooled gasoline and diesel engines, Heavy-duty formula works on aluminum and cast-iron heads and blocks; also repairs head gaskets, cylinder heads, intake gaskets, cracked blocks and freeze plugs, Compatible with virtually all types of antifreeze, including conventional silicate-based green and blue and extended-life red/orange and yellow (OAT/HOAT) coolant, Gasket-sealing particles penetrate gaps and cracks and harden to permanently stop leaks without draining the cooling system, 1 bottle treats up to a4-gallon cooling capacity

BAR’S PRODUCTS MAKES FALSE CLAIMS ON BAR’S HEAD GASKET FIX #1111
BAR’S WII BECOME HARD AS STEEL AND WILL CRACK, OVER AND OVER, CAUSING MORE DAMAGES THAN BEFORE, BECAUSE THE GLASS USED ON THE PRODUCT SOLIDIFY AS ENGINE GETS HOTTER AND CRACKS WILL FOLLOW FOR ALUMINUM HEADS EXPANSION. THEN, COME THE CLOGGED COOLING PARTS AND ENGINE DESTRUCTION FOR LACK Of WATER CIRCULATION

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Old 08-23-2013, 06:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Some people try to shut up me and deleted my information on Bar's Products failure. Those people are protecting Bar's interests, even when Bar's causes big damages to cars
Do they practice corruption and kick out people, when something is affecting their unspeakable intentions?
The US is built on justice, and should not be taken by extremist like that
If you are referring to this Forum's actions, then all that was accomplished here was to move your post to the appropriate section AND remove your other duplicated (RANT / SPAMMING) same post entries.



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My water pump was al screwed and clogged, clogged heater core, clogged radiator and thermostat.
He told me that he could replaced all the parts, but there was a risk of having damages on the engine, as happened to others customers with different cars, driving VW, Asian or European cars
A single application of a properly dispensed Stop Leak type additive (Bar's or whomever) won't cause those reported problems. You either had NUMEROUS leak treatments previously performed AND / OR your cooling system was simply debris laden / corrosion filled from improper maintenance to begin with.

I'm not a firm believer in Stop Leak style additives FWIW, as they are a "band aid" fix at best, in lieu of a properly conducted leak repair. And depending on the severity and location of the leak, along with the overall general condition of the cooling system, they sometimes work, sometimes don't. There IS no manufacture's guarantee given nor implied.

Now...if you want to opt to spend just a few bucks and attempt a "hope and pray" fix, that's your decision, but not the cause of the findings in this scenario. You're upset. We get that.
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A single application of a properly dispensed Stop Leak type additive (Bar's or whomever) won't cause those reported problems. You either had NUMEROUS leak treatments previously performed AND / OR your cooling system was simply debris laden / corrosion filled from improper maintenance to begin with.

I'm not a firm believer in Stop Leak style additives FWIW, as they are a "band aid" fix at best, in lieu of a properly conducted leak repair. And depending on the severity and location of the leak, along with the overall general condition of the cooling system, they sometimes work, sometimes don't. There IS no manufacture's guarantee given nor implied.

Now...if you want to opt to spend just a few bucks and attempt a "hope and pray" fix, that's your decision, but not the cause of the findings in this scenario. You're upset. We get that.
Not even one word coming from you is a true fact!
You are a doctor that prescribed medicines over the internet?
What else can I expect from people trashing people and feeling happy to do so
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The US is built on justice and should not be taken by extremist putting down true facts
For many people, money and profits come first and they will deny everything on Bar's and its legion of liars
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after I added it to the coolant reservoir
Well then maybe you should have followed the instructions.

How-To Videos | Bar's Leaks & Rislone - Premium Automotive Chemicals

Where it tells you (in part) to "FLUSH the system first, and then add the product to the RADIATOR".

So, in closing....the Bar's leak sat in your coolant recovery tank (reservoir) for all intents and purposes.
The crapped up mess in the remainder of the cooling system (as reported by your mechanic) was obviously pre-existing, was not flushed out and not a result of the Bar's.

Ok. THAT we'll buy.
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The US is built on justice and should not be taken by extremist putting down true facts
For many people, money and profits come first and they will deny everything on Bar's and its legion of liars
Get a lawyer and file a suit.
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Exclamation Oh dear.

I've located 1 additional supporter out of 37 comments who promotes legal intervention.
Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Bar's Leaks 1111 Head Gasket Fix - 24 oz. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Bar's Leaks 1111 Head Gasket Fix - 24 oz.


Can you say "Class Action" lawsuit?

And another 70% of the public that would "recommend to a friend".
Buy Bars Leak Head Gasket Fix 1111 at Advance Auto Parts

What were THEY thinking!
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