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Old 10-11-2015, 08:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Long story short, I'm rebuilding a J20A from a '03 Aerio. I've ordered ebay parts before, some from the seller in question, and have never had so many problems.

I ordered a timing set with oil and water pump, a bearing set, also a complete gasket set, all from the seller "domesticgaskets". Anyone ordering ebay parts has seen their name before.

The first issue was noticed when inspecting the parts. 2 capfulls of clean oil were poured into the new oil pump then turned by hand. I could feel tugging, binding and dragging. Clearly a sign of a contaminated pump. Most likely debris from the manufacturing process. I requested a replacement and was sent another, at no charge, and the replacement had the same issue. It was not turning smoothly. The seller issued a credit for the oil pump and I was not required to return them. I cleaned one of the pumps and it turns freely now but the sprocket is off center which will cause the oil pump drive chain tension to increase and decrease likely causing noise and premature wear or damage of the chain guide. I haven't decided what to do about it yet.

Second issue was the pistons. I noticed the domes were different then mine. They were the small dome J18A pistons and not the J20A pistons shown in the listing. They also had burrs all over the place that would have contacted the cylinder walls. The seller sent me the proper pistons which had the correct dome, no burrs, but lacked the crosshatching on the sides near the pins. I believe that's placed on the OEM castings to give oil something to cling to. I plan to run them anyways.

The third issue was the rings. I was supposed to recieve NPR rings and received some no-name junk. The oil rings were poorly made. The expander ring has a wire to hold the ends in align but the wire was formed with a smaller radius then the expander ring. This causes it to get stuck any time the ring is spread open, like it would be to install it in the piston. If it were to get stuck during installation, the oil rings would have excessive pressure against the cylinder walls.

The fourth issue was the main bearings. The listing stated King bearings (which I have not had a problem with) but I received no-name white box bearings. Who knows who made them. The rod and thrust bearings were the correct King bearings. I contacted the seller about that the same time I complained about the pistons and rings and received new King bearings as well as the proper rings and pistons.

The fifth issue was the head bolts. I torqued them correctly per. the Suzuki FSM and the 7th bolt snapped before the final torque was reached. I contacted the seller once again and he sent another set of bolts and a new head gasket. I attempted to install them tonight and could feel the same thing happening to these bolts. This time on the first bolt. I removed the bolt and saw significant stretch which is beyond TTY preload. It was near it's breaking point. Just to note, they were properly lubricated with oil and I tried another torque wrench just to be sure.

The sixth issue is the timing set. The jack-shaft sprocket doesn't have the correct markings on it. It's VERY easy for an installer to use the wrong marks. This presents performance, drivability, and emission issues. I was able to determine the correct markings by comparing it to the original sprocket. Also, the jack-shaft doesn't have a rifled bushing like the OEM bushing and the thrust surface had it's oil passages ground by hand into the face of the hub unlike the machined grooves of the OEM sprocket.

Bottom line is, China doesn't have a F'in clue what they're doing over there. How hard can it be to clone a part? Pretty hard apparently.

Last edited by lazzer408; 10-11-2015 at 09:13 PM.
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