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Old 08-15-2006, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

Has anyone converted thier Suzuki to LPG (Liquid Petroleum Gas) with the rising Petrol prices?

If so, what model and where did you put the Gas Tanks?

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man I seriously researched into this and had planned to do so but several factors stood inthe way one: the epa made it harder to do with some more reqs and decertifieing previous results forcing makers to recert. and the epa list goes on and on. two: the trottle body adds to the complexity. some of my mechanics lost enthusiasm when learning of the cars setup. three: my state got scared in an alt fuels screw up and took tax credits away. lack of demand makes availability an issue


the payback will take forever so unless you can get a kit from India or got propane I just dont see it vialble because you need to look at pwr loss will be made up in aditional fuel and some calculations puts it at a wash in cost /benefits

but that being said heres some links good luck
LPG Vaporizer,Gas Vaporizer,LPG Vaporizer Manufacturer,Gas Vaporizer Manufacturer
Alternate fuel! LPG & CNG conversion kits - parts - service
SmartPlugs.com - Innovative engine ignition systems
Alternative Fuels Data Center: Finding a Fueling Station
Propane Conversion Kits : Available Kits
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you can also opt for a doughnut shaped tank and replace your spare tire with it or like most against the backseat and loose the fold down option
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Wy '99 1.6 Baleno wagon runs on lpg, for 184000km now and not a problem with it.

Its a multipoint gas injection, with eci controller linked to the car's petrol eci. The tank is a donut shape in the spare tire area.
Giving me 55 litres of actual tank capasity (80%) and takes me +600km with full thank.
No power loss noticable between plg and petrol.
My next suzuki (off couse) will have a similar setup. i'm pretty sure bout that.

Costs in running are about 1/3 of what it would cost when it ran on petrol. Driving 30.000km would 'pay back' the installation cost of the whole setup.

I aint driving petrol no more
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oh beleive me the numbers look good and I was seriously planning to convert but this whole alt fuels scandal in arizona dried up a lot of businesses and some quotes were 6000 dollars US sorry but at almost half the cost of the car pay back is indeed going to take years I ran the calculators and it just was not a cost effective option.
this is why I picked the reno looked good and wanted to convert to cng or lpg within one year of owning.
I think I found a kit for under 3000 but some of the mechanics gave me an uncomfortable feeling after answering their questions on the engine. they( and I too) did not want to be pioneers on a new egine that had not been attempted on another car of same setup.
since you want some one with a lot of install experience to do it.
then came epa certifation who how where.
and paperwork to submit to state and fed for tax purposes after all the research it just looked like too big of a headache compared with how easy it used to be so Ill wait next year Ill look into it again hopefully there will be some developments that were different from last time i looked.
whats sad is got propane .com has kits 500 dollars but for off road use I beleive there is no difference but it would be more difficult to certifyand we have emission testing every 2 years. dont want to pop the hood and have a illeagal setup I know it should pass just the same as gas since it burns cleaner but you know how the epa is
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any way the site listed should get you on the way to a system call them and ask lots of questions maybe things are different in your locale I do know other countries it is very cost effective I have seen people doing kits from india for next to nothing (well not really but it sure seemed like it)
if I remember right a guy in the uk was having an indian kit put in on a car for a very reasonable final cost volvo or saab one of those elitist models.
so look into it
first look into fueling locations that was a very big problem here
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My brother here in Oklahoma does propane conversions for a company called Oklahoma BI-fuel. I am discussing converting my 87 sammy to LPG. I will checkwith him on what is the best kit. They are checking on a conversion kit made in Italy. They one that is made here in the U.S. that epa certified but it is 5k to convert.

What is sad is thet he used to work for that company that sells teh conversion kit and actually got it certified by the EPA for them and they will not give him any kind of price break.
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what a rip off the company out here said 6 and I was like ok 600 no he said 6000 ouch. half the value of the car it would take tooo long to make it pay me back.
and I am not sure I want to keep this one 11years like my last one.
I know hybrid electric diesel is pobably 5 years out and thats what Im waiting for. even though I know it can be done today hell just swap prius engine for diesel and done. then youd see some serious milage.
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im working in chevy dealer as a salesman we use the BRC and Tartarini rail injection lpg kits. no power losts, economic (%50 on highway ) guarantee with 3 years or 100.000 km
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