OEM cruise control - Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site
Suzuki Forum Suzuki Forums

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Technical > General Car Audio, Video and Electronics
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowAuto LoansInsurance Advertise

Suzuki-Forums.com is the premier Suzuki All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-10-2019, 02:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 48
Gallery: 0
J63812F is on a distinguished road
Default OEM cruise control

I have an 06 forenza automatic. It appears that cruise can be installed fairly easily, so I went to the salvage yard and got the switch for the cruise and for the radio controls. I also got the clockspring and wiring harness from the donor car. All plugged in fine. the radio contrlls work, but the cruise doesnt. The car is wired the same as the donor car, so we are at a loss as to why it wont engage. Anyone have any experience with it? I guess its a long shot.
J63812F is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-10-2019, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 3,912
Gallery: 0
2013GV is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J63812F View Post
I have an 06 forenza automatic. It appears that cruise can be installed fairly easily, so I went to the salvage yard and got the switch for the cruise and for the radio controls. I also got the clockspring and wiring harness from the donor car. All plugged in fine. the radio contrlls work, but the cruise doesnt. The car is wired the same as the donor car, so we are at a loss as to why it wont engage. Anyone have any experience with it? I guess its a long shot.
if it wasn't factory fitted on that car, there will be several issues. Additional relays are required, additional switches on brake pedal, correct ABS, BCM TCM and ECU models along with the correct firmware (this of course is assuming the ABS module allows for cruise control, along with the engine ECM, gearbox TCM and Body Control Module)

its a bit more than just adding a switch....yours i believe is cable so all those bits will be needed as well.

I wanted to add hill descent to mine, found a switch for $20 from the wreckers.
Checked and found out the ABS controller doesn't have the internal circuitry, the car has the wiring in the loom, but none of the additional relays. Will cost about $3000 if i want to get it working.

I have decided not to buy the switch.
__________________
2015 5 dr Grand Vitara 2.4 (daily driver)
2008 Swift M15A
1971 V8 HG Holden with 383 stroker 9" torq lok and TH350 trans (the toy)
Mitzi RVR 2.0 (not one of my better buys)
the 2013 3 dr GV is now the off road only toy

"Dogs feel very strongly that they should always go with you in the car, in case the need should arise for them to bark violently at nothing right in your ear."

Last edited by 2013GV; 08-10-2019 at 03:55 PM.
2013GV is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-10-2019, 03:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Posts: 12,001
Gallery: 0
fordem will become famous soon enough
Default

Assuming that the 06 Forenza is similar to the 05 Forenza, it's going to take a few more bits & pieces than just the steering wheel controls, there has to be an actuator that connects to the throttle body to operate the throttle plate, via a cable similar to the throttle cable.

I think it's a bit more complicated than you realize.
__________________
98 - 1.8 Mitsubishi Pajero iO
98 - 2.0 Suzuki Grand Vitara - SQ420
05 - 2.0 Suzuki Grand Vitara - JB420
15 - 2.4 Kia Sportage
fordem is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2019, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 48
Gallery: 0
J63812F is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey thanks for the quick replies. I wanted to point out that two thousand six seven and eight are drive-by-wire. There are no mechanicals needed for cruise control except that it is solely run by the computer which has complete control of the throttle. so there is no need for anything mechanical or relays or anything like that. It really should be plug and play in my opinion I'm going to keep researching it all the wiring appears to be there.
J63812F is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-10-2019, 07:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 3,912
Gallery: 0
2013GV is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J63812F View Post
Hey thanks for the quick replies. I wanted to point out that two thousand six seven and eight are drive-by-wire. There are no mechanicals needed for cruise control except that it is solely run by the computer which has complete control of the throttle. so there is no need for anything mechanical or relays or anything like that. It really should be plug and play in my opinion I'm going to keep researching it all the wiring appears to be there.
The wiring will be factory fitted but there will be additional electrical control relays required to power the cruise control circuits, as well as the correct ECU versions and firmware. If its not fitted to the car from the factory, you may still need to source the correct engine ECU, ABS control module, Transmission control module and body control module, and then you have to get them to talk to each other.

While your opinion that its "plug and play" is broadly correct, if the electronics aren't set up to control it, it won't work.
__________________
2015 5 dr Grand Vitara 2.4 (daily driver)
2008 Swift M15A
1971 V8 HG Holden with 383 stroker 9" torq lok and TH350 trans (the toy)
Mitzi RVR 2.0 (not one of my better buys)
the 2013 3 dr GV is now the off road only toy

"Dogs feel very strongly that they should always go with you in the car, in case the need should arise for them to bark violently at nothing right in your ear."
2013GV is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-10-2019, 07:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 48
Gallery: 0
J63812F is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks ! No big deal..at least I have the radio controls now 👍👍
J63812F is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Technical > General Car Audio, Video and Electronics

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.