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Old 10-01-2010, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Disconnected DRL module from Tracker/Vitara 2002, but interior lights went out.

Hi.

I have a chevrolet tracker 2002 2.0cyl RWD base. I was researching to disconnect the DRL module, and I found a very wide variety of instructions.

It has the same connector I saw the vitara 2002 does, and the description is the same too.

Anyway, my case is the following: after disconnecting the DRL module, I finally got rid of the DRL, but... guess what.. brake lights and dome lights are out too, I don't know what else could be out by disconnecting the DRL module. (silver box, size of a cigarrete, under the driver's side panel).

I just want the headlights off during the day, I love automatic lights, but then again, no interior lights.

what I want to do is find out which cable is for the DRL in the DRL module and cut it, I want everything else to work. there should be a way to disable the DRL without having to give up the interior lights.

It has been very difficult for me to find out the wiring info for my DRL module, to remove the DRL cable, so I need help finding this out.... or am I trying to solve it the wrong way??

If you need any info to help me with my issue, please let me know.
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Actually, this side of the forum is for 89-98, so your post should be on the Grand Vitara link (for all cars 99+). However, in the meantime, I found this info:
The headlights are connected to a headlamp relay and the DRL control module has a wire going to the DRL. The photo sensor has a wire that connects to the DRL module and headlamp relay. The photo sensor tells the DRL when its bright outside. You can't simply unplug the DRL module because the dome light wires run through it and some other stuff. If you just unplug the photosensor the DRL module still controls the headlights even at night (you'd still need use manual control because i don't think it controls rear lights). You could replace the photosensor to make the DRL think its nighttime during daytime but the lights would still auto come on at night I think but this adds more complications. So there are basically two solutions I consider better. First one is to take out the wire connecting the DRL/photo sensor in the Headlamp relay and that would solve both problems. Solution two would be to disconnect the wire going to the headlamp relay on the DRL module and the photosensor. Either solution requires you to use a pin or somethign to raise a plastic clip holding the wire pins in and then pulling the wire out. At either one of these places you can add a switch to disable or re-enable.
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like the DR side, if it hurts when you push there , well DONT.

i can answer this. ( want proof ) you naughty wall climber.......

the DRL module allowed the engineer to do some extra magic
with out major harness changes ( later is very expensive)
only minor.


they kill the DRL, if alternotor goes dead.saving a battery
it allows extra flashing functions of the brake lamps.

you need to look are your DRL schematic and all that and more
is in plain view.

ever heard of a uSA public lib. ,
walk in.
sit down, swipe lib card (free)
log in
click e-sources. click AUTO REPAIR, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh







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Hi.

I have a chevrolet tracker 2002 2.0cyl RWD base. I was researching to disconnect the DRL module, and I found a very wide variety of instructions.

It has the same connector I saw the vitara 2002 does, and the description is the same too.

Anyway, my case is the following: after disconnecting the DRL module, I finally got rid of the DRL, but... guess what.. brake lights and dome lights are out too, I don't know what else could be out by disconnecting the DRL module. (silver box, size of a cigarrete, under the driver's side panel).

I just want the headlights off during the day, I love automatic lights, but then again, no interior lights.

what I want to do is find out which cable is for the DRL in the DRL module and cut it, I want everything else to work. there should be a way to disable the DRL without having to give up the interior lights.

It has been very difficult for me to find out the wiring info for my DRL module, to remove the DRL cable, so I need help finding this out.... or am I trying to solve it the wrong way??

If you need any info to help me with my issue, please let me know.


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btw if in canada, that is ILLEGAL.

are you?

no , im no fink ,just wondering why you hate DRL.

it's harmless. to you and others.
see and be seen and live.

why buck the trend. ?

trying to save $5 a year on bulbs.
yes, ive read the web sites to see the laundary lists of complaints.
most are bogus,boring and whiny. (or plain manufactured isssues)
cept the $5 thing.

if you arrive and st.peters. and peter says, hey fella , why'd you do that.
what will be the answer..

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh $5 ?

i hate air bags, but i use them.
i hate sitting in front of any shot gun shell, it really really bugs me.
ive added DRL to all motorcycles. for sure.
even to my 1977-R100s Bmw. yup.



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if you find the one wire in the connector that you removed(I think its the black or green one from memory) and remove that from the connector and plug it back in.. only the drl's will be disables and everything else will work fine.
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read the fsm first. gee, imagine that.
many DRL on newer cars are programmable.
and can be defeated, my 04 chev PU had that. very common now , with car makers pleasing buyers, but is not likely on canada models for obvious reasons.

he is on wrong forum an ours are NOT programmable. ( i think is is not either) FSM will be clearer , and i dont have that, only schematics.

I Dug up the lib schematic,
so he can stop guessing.


see attached.
if its programmable i cant see that happening ,unless you play games with hand brake and key switch.

there, now you know what can be or not.



cut resistor
cut wire to resistor Red-white
cut red white to DRL
remove pin 6 from DRL. connector.

all do the same electrically.

and Photo cell will still work via path 6 triangle



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as you can see GM uses the antique way of operation the DRL

the silly resistor

so, remove it .
then if the DLR sees KNIGHT (photocell)
it will still pulling the HL relay. via Triangle B path.

see ?

cut /pull resistor.



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Hi guys.

thank you for your responses.
I found, looking for the DRL blueprints two cables, one says "DRL indicator" and the other one says "DRL control". Found it googling the DRL module model (at least it is very similar to mine that I believe is the same one I have)

I am thinking to try removing the DRL control cable from the switch to see if it works the way I want. if it doesn't I will put it back in.

Ah, and by the way, I am in Dominican Republic, I can disable DRL here and it is not illegal, in fact, they look kind of silly in a caribbean country.

I realized another thing.... please correct me if I am wrong.
The DRL module should light up the lights in the corners of the headlights, not the headlights themselves. I mean, (I don't know how you call it, we call it quarter light). Is there a way I can switch the DRL to light up those corner lights (or quarter lights) instead of the headlights? maybe if those corner lights are on, they won't bother me so much.

Thank you guys.
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my drawing is no good? huh?

Dominican Republic

so there you go ,we finnally drag out that little (not) secret

you do know lighting rules vary by country, right.? and didnt post market code on car, !

there are MANY MANY DRL modules world wide. due to that fact.

what is in yours who knows. you never disclosed the VIN or Full chassis tag
data,
you can buy a FSM for any market,and then can work on any car.
but not telling the market makes our answers, all wrong.

some countries have very strict rules on the DRL logic.
whats in yours? , who knows.

pull (cut) the control and see what it does.

the wire to cut is red/white (called low beams)
as it hits the DRL box.

but on some countries DRL this kills Lowbeam totally.

so you are cut and try .
good luck with that.

id not mess with it until you find out what you have.
try photo graphing the box and post that
and tell number of pins on box.

many there are.

better yet , start over.
read stick# one

and post car spec.
vin
and if no vin the chassis tag.
photos work best , especially the latter as it is complex.

keep the photo so next time when ordering parts you dont get the wrong parts.
diff countries use diff parts on same year KICK



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Hi.

Though I am in Dominican Republic, my car was imported from united states, so I have a US model. I have bought parts for it with the VIN in the internet

I don't think I will totally kill the low beams, there should be a way around it... jeje,

I'd rather switch the low beams with the corner lights (or quarter lights as we call them), but I will ask for an electrician if it is possible and if it will not cause electrical damage to my car.

and how about the DRL control cable in the connector?

Any other ideas?
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