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Old 09-01-2019, 06:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Instructions for replacing kickdown cable (aka TV kick down detent throttle valve)

Can soneone please assist?

I've searched for instructions here and elsewhere on how to remove and replace the TV or throttle valve cable, 2000 Grand Vitara. I do have the FSM instructions. In addition there's 1 post on this forum describing a procedure, but unlike the manual he that says you don't have to pull the trans valve body.

Can someone with experience please give some pointers? This is as far as I got today:

1. remove trans dipstick
2. raise vehicle
3. drain trans oil
4. remove trans oil pan
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I'm stuck from here. I don't understand the manual, mainly b/c I don't know what I'm looking at. Will give it another go tomorrow. (Note to anyone. If you power wash your engine, don't spray water down the TV cable. It is truly stuck and will not push back in; I've tried injecting PB Blaster for a couple of days.)
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follow the kick down cable from the throttle into the trans, it will attach to a pivot point / lever on the valve chest. If you can get the cable un hooked off its connection point in the trans then you're 90% there, rest of the work is getting the cable out of the trans and getting the new one in and adjusted.
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Which manual are you looking at? Do you have the unit disassembly manual that covers section 7 alone?

After you remove the pan you have to remove the valve body to disconnect the cable.
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Thanks to you both. Fordem I've been using my hard copy 2000 Chevy Tracker factory service manual which is pretty good. I did look at Ch. 7 of the Suzuki manual and there are no instructions for removing the TV cable. Maybe I missed it; I was looking at Vol. 1 p. 7B1-61 which only describes cable adjustment. The Tracker manual is much better but the main problem is that I don't know what a valve body or regulator looks like.

Let's start here. Two questions. One guy said after pulling the pan, before removing the valve body, to first remove 4 oil cooler lines and then about 14 bolts of various sizes. Is that accurate? Second, somewhere I read to apply low volume compressed air to remove something, a piston maybe? I certainly hope not. Am I on the right track?

What's confusing also is that GV2013, I think what you're saying is that you wouldn't remove the valve body, and I think I understand the concept, but Fordem says you must remove it. Not sure what to make of that.
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What's confusing also is that GV2013, I think what you're saying is that you wouldn't remove the valve body, and I think I understand the concept, but Fordem says you must remove it. Not sure what to make of that.
It will be necessary to remove the valve body, but you can do this with the trans in the car. Just note which bolts come from where, theres a couple of longer ones that must go back in the correct locations.

You may be able to get it unhooked with the valve body in situ but I doubt it.
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From the Transmission and Axle Suzuki Service Manual sourced from the top FAQ thread...

Transmission and axle manual

In part (narrative only minus accompanying diagrams) shown here...

7B1-6 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION (4 A/T)

14) Remove oil pan (1).
15) Remove oil tubes.
16) Remove coupler from solenoid valve (1).

NOTE:
• Hold oil pan with oil pan side down to prevent foreign
material in oil pan from entering valve body.
• If iron powder is found, it is possible that bearing, gear
or clutch plate is worn.
NOTE:
Refer to the figure for order of their removal

17) Remove oil strainer (1).
18) Remove valve body (2) mounting bolts as shown in the figure.
19) Lift valve body (1) and disconnect A/T throttle cable (2) from
throttle cam. And remove valve body.
20) Disconnect throttle cable (3) from case (4)
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The manual Max linked to is the one I was asking about - download it and take a look - it should make things clearer.
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Ok thanks, I didn't see that sub-manual. The description in that manual at p. 7B1-7 para. 21 says to remove the accumulator pistons, but now I see that step isn't necessary to remove the cable. The Chevy manual was unclear about that.

Thanks to all 3 of you. I couldn't have done my various projects without your help. Will do a dry run on my parts car after I take a day off. But I will report back.

(Closed circuit to Max - keep your head down, I hear from friends in FL that this storm is a doozey. I went thru coastal SC just after Hugo and it was a real mess.)

EDIT: I looked at the re-assembly instructions. Are new gaskets or O rings required to do this job? The manual doesn't say anything about using new parts when reassembling the lower valve body back onto the transmission.
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Thanks. Yeah, we rode Hugo out but I'm hoping for a glancing blow from this one. We'll see.
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if theres O rings or a gasket (usually is between valve body and case) then replacement is recommended. Especially the O rings.

If the gasket comes off clean and is undamaged, you can re-use it. Its not advised, but its been done successfully.

Watch out for any check balls, this is why I don't like taking valve chests off in the car, they fall out and are nearly impossible to find or put back. I suggest you lay out a very big old sheet just in case.
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