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Old 08-31-2019, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default '01 Grand Vitara XL7 fog lights not workng

Hey gang, long time no post. The fog lights in our '01 XL7 aren't working. I obviously tried replacing the bulbs and I verified the fuses aren't blown. I'm struggling to find information on testing the switch. I got it out but not sure how to test. Can anybody provide some guidance on testing it. Thg green indicator light on the fog light switch doesn't come on when I push it in but if memory serves, that indicator light has stayed off in the past when both bulbs were burned out - though I'm not 100% sure on that point.

As additional info I learned the hard way that the '01 XL-7, being the first year for it, had two types of fog lights, those installed at the factory and those installed at the ports. Mine is the latter, taking an H1 bulb vs. the former taking an H3 bulb. Thanks all.
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This is what my 2001 XL7 wiring manual has to offer..
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You took a heck of a break D.

Don't scare me like that.
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Thanks Darrell. Now I just need to figure out where that fog light relay is. All the manuals I downloaded have diagrams for rear fog lights but not front, even though it references the front. In the owners manual I see the 15A fuse in the passenger compartment but no mention of the relays. Guess I'm going to have to some more searching next time my daughter's home from school.

I think I'm pretty much hosed if the switch is bad as it's a discontinued part. Salvage yard looks to be my only option if it's the switch, and there aren't that many with fog lights.
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The pre 2003 workshop manuals don't show anything for the switch or relay, even the wiring manual is vague. I have checked the wiring manual and E216 is the connector for the relay which is on the right on a LHD. Hopefully the rear one of those 3 on the right. Not sure if you can see the wire colours. Best of luck..
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Thanks Darrell. I'll take a look next time my daughter is home from school.
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My daughter came home today for a few hours so I used the opportunity to some investigating. I'm 99% confident the relay is actually part of the switch itself. I traced the negative wires to the front of the truck near the right side of the radiator. I traced the positive wire all the way to the bundle of wires that enter the passenger compartment and it didn't pass through a relay in the engine compartment. I'm not exactly sure how to go about testing at this point, but I think my issue is one of the following:
  1. A diode between the bright lights and fog lights is blown. Not exactly sure where this diode would be but assume in the steering wheel stalk somewhere.
  2. A diode for the headlights (indicating lights are on) is blown. Same issue with locating
  3. Wire is frayed or broken somewhere along the line
  4. The switch (or relays within it) itself is bad

Unfortunately, this is now maxing out my skills. I'm not quite sure how to go about testing each of those items. I'm guessing the diode I mention is actually part of the relay in the switch.
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relays are usually not part of the switch, but are either under the hood or on the relay panel along with turn signal relay etc
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relays are usually not part of the switch, but are either under the hood or on the relay panel along with turn signal relay etc
Thanks. Where is the turn signal relay located? I traced the wires all the way to the firewall where they enter the passenger compartment and it didn't pass through a relay. Like I mentioned in the first post, the '01 XL7 had two types of fog lights - those installed at the factory and those installed once they land in the US. I learned the hard way when I needed to replace one that I have the latter so I don't know if that comes into play at all.
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