Catalytic converter

[mikepegasus]

my 2005 Suzuki Verona needs to have one of the smaill (pup) Catalytic comverters replaced I have been told that to replace one it will cost over $2500, I do not have that kind of money, does anyone know how to replace these, I had never heard of a vehicle using three cats before but the Verona does and these are hard to get to. thanks

[kaycee]

Mike-
Who told you that it needs to replaced?

Are you experiencing driveablity issues with your Verona?

Originally Posted by mikepegasus

my 2005 Suzuki Verona needs to have one of the smaill (pup) Catalytic comverters replaced I have been told that to replace one it will cost over $2500, I do not have that kind of money, does anyone know how to replace these, I had never heard of a vehicle using three cats before but the Verona does and these are hard to get to. thanks

[mikepegasus]

I've had two repair centers tell me that, and the check engine light is on and per the repair centers and autozone the codes show that the pup cat for bank 1 (1,2,3) cylinders is clogged which means that the car is only running on 3 cylinders.

Mike

[ewetho]

Think it is only 2 cats. 2 separate 3-way cats.

Yup expensive beasts.

[mikepegasus]

anyone know of a more inexpensive option?, I've been told that they run $2500 each...I just can't afford that.

Mike

[zstalker]

Originally Posted by mikepegasus

anyone know of a more inexpensive option?, I've been told that they run $2500 each...I just can't afford that.

That right there is the problem with these Veronas. The major issues they have are incredibly expensive once they're outside of warranty. When the motor goes bad (when...not if), that'll be nearly $10,000 to replace. The catalytic converters, it has two of them, are over $2,000 each, and that's just the parts cost, you still have to have them installed. I don't know, but I doubt that any aftermarket catalysts are available for this car. Something to look into is see if the upstream O2 sensor has slowed its response rate. If that happens, the ECM may think that the catalytic converter has failed. I'm not saying that your cat hasn't failed, but that's a chance at something other than replacement of the cat (and much cheaper...but not gauranteed).
I've already condemned two Veronas for repair estimates beyond what the car it worth. Sad...on paper the Verona should have been such a grear car, but it's just got such glaring issues that kept it from greatness...the same issues that prompted Suzuki to entirely stop selling them after just a 3 year run.
~Erik~

[Jeff L.]

Our dealership only sold 2 of those cars in the 3 year run!

If it was my car personally and the cat was actually plugged up I would remove it and gut it, and then reinstall it with a "cheater" on the post cat O2 sensor. Keeps the engine light off and you'll probbaly see a performance gain.

There is no e-tests or inspections here though.

[ewetho]

We just looked up a set and the were like 1750 each. Yikes anyway.

Also check for oil in the intake system. Cats are 8-80 and if you are sucking oil youMAY need a head 7-100

[mikepegasus]

Jeff L. what exactly is a "Cheater"? I am trying to get to the cat now to remove it and gut it, just not sure what cheater means. the sad thing is other than this issue the Verona has been a great car up....but like zstalker said it is a shame because on paper these cars had such potential....I can't help but wonder if GM's involvement at the end and any deterimental affect. I mean the motor was designed by Porsche for crying out loud....

04-17-2009 09:36 PM
Jeff L. Our dealership only sold 2 of those cars in the 3 year run!

If it was my car personally and the cat was actually plugged up I would remove it and gut it, and then reinstall it with a "cheater" on the post cat O2 sensor. Keeps the engine light off and you'll probbaly see a performance gain.

There is no e-tests or inspections here though.
04-15-2009 08:13 PM

[russmantione]

I have heard that if the problem surfaced before 80,000 miles then they replace it for free. I have had the car back tot he dealer under ford extended warranty 10 times in last year and now they tell me sorry and it is still under ford extended warranty for 4 more months. any thoughts