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Old 06-26-2011, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2008 SX4 and am trying to remove the alternator.

The Suzuki service manual says to remove the air cleaner and intake mfld then remove the alt cover. However I can remove the cover without removing the intake of air cleaner so I am confused as to why these first twe steps are there.

The manual then states to diconnect the alternator wires. No Prob.

It then states to remove the upper and lower bolts retaining the alternator and remove alternator.

Here in lies the rub. The upper bolt is partially covered by the powerstearing pully. I can see no why to remove it without pulling the PS pump.

Any insight would be greatly appreciarted.

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Old 06-27-2011, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Loosen p/s pump if needed and push it out of the way with the hoses connected. I've never had to replace an SX4 alternator...they may want you to pull the intake manifold for room to get the alternator out. I'd probably do it from underneath the car if it was me personally doing it as there is more access to work on it. May have to pull the RF axle but not sure. A lot easier than screwing around takking the intake off and risking leaks later.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Jeff, Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

The trick is removing the PS pump. The bolts are behind the pully and there is no room to get a wrench on them or a socket. you can just get the tips of your fingers on them. And , one out, how does one get them back in?

I have removed the right side motor mount and jacked up the engine. Gives a bit more room to work on the PS pump, but still not enough. Managed to get the three bolts holding the PS pump loose, but with restricted access through the pully, am reluctant to take them all the way out as I can't see a good way to get them back in.
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It's quite tight to remove the p/s pump but not impossible. With the side mount off you should be able to jack the engine up quite a bit. Don't worry the wire harnesses and hoses are plenty long enough. Just have a block of wood between the jack and engine and it'll be fine. I have replaced a few p/s pumps before and recall it not being a fun job.
Good luck sounds like you are on the right track.
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Thanks for the input Jeff. The air cleaner box is up against the firewall now. If I remove that, I can jack the engine higher. How much higher can I go? Guess I'll find out tonight! I'll stop when I hear cracking and snapping.

Any suggestions on where and what type of replacement alternator to get? There are lots of places on the internet with all kinds of prices. Also looks like there are several mfg. of repacement alternators. Any guidance appreciated.
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just curious, is the alternator bad?
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Thanks for the input Jeff. The air cleaner box is up against the firewall now. If I remove that, I can jack the engine higher. How much higher can I go? Guess I'll find out tonight! I'll stop when I hear cracking and snapping.

Any suggestions on where and what type of replacement alternator to get? There are lots of places on the internet with all kinds of prices. Also looks like there are several mfg. of repacement alternators. Any guidance appreciated.
The real trick, is to stop just before the cracking and snaping!
Those sounds are NOT what you want to hear.

But I too, am dying of curiosity, , , , how did you determine that the alternator is bad?
Just curious, just in case I ever have to do the same tests. I am, after all, an electronics tech.
On my own car, when I first got it, the alternator was not charging the battery. The problem turned out to be a connector, under the battery, that was not seated properly.
It took the Suzuki service dept three days to find that problem and then only by accident when one tech bumped that cable and the battery began charging. The good part of all that, was that during the troubleshooting procedure, they put in a Full Maintenance battery.
I much prefer those to the totally unserviceable Maintenance Free batteries.

I once rebuilt a GM alternator, sitting on a curbing in front of an Auto Parts store in Waterville, Maine. But, GM alternators were not a big deal to remove, rebuild and replace. I guess, from what I hear, that the SX4 alternator is not so simple at least to get out of the car. I'm really glad that I have an extended warranty on mine.

Good Luck!
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Default Got the #$%&^# thing out!

What a pain! I've done a few front end drives on transverse engines and this one takes the cake. And the question still is can I get the PS pump bolts back in.

It all started a few months ago. An intermittent squeaking noise from the engine compartment. (My daughter's 2009 has the same intermittent sound!) When under the hood, I isolated it to the front end drive. Thought it was the idler or perhaps the tensioner pulleys. Decided to get it before it seized and fried the belt leaving me stranded on the road.

Took the accessory drive belt off, pulled both the idler and tensioner pulleys and they were OK. Then went from AC to PS to WP to Alt and squeak! Sounds like it is the rear bearing. Decided to fix it now rather than in the middle of winter.

Now that I have the #%$& thing out, what should I replace it with? It is a Mitsubishi. Same ol' or a Denso? Don't want the same prob in another three years. My '68 289 Mustang still has the original alt and ~200,000 on it! Hell, my Mom's '49 Plymouth and Dad's '40 Ford stll have the original generators in them and you can remove and replace them in 15 minutes with nothing more that a claw hammer!

Anyone got input?

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Did you read my post, where I said I rebuilt the alternator on my '66 Toronado, while on vacation in Maine. (I lived in Illinois at that time)

Sure nuff, it was that dang'd rear bearing. It was screaming like a banshee!
Buy a new bearing and put it in. They are really pretty simple. Put in new brushes while you're at it.

It really only takes about 30 minutes to rebuild an alternator, once you have the new parts on hand.

Check around your area for an Alternator shop and if not, check your Auto Parts stores for the repair parts.

On the older cars, a belt that's too tight can cause those rear bearings to go out.
But, with the proper belt tensioner on your car, that shouldn't happen.

Let us know how you make out.

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