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Old 07-30-2010, 06:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Auto fluid change on my SX4

Hi all,

I have an automatic SX4 AWD.

I am very keen to change the auto fluid on the car.

I am very handy and want to give it a go myself.

I know the car takes Dexron 3 oil which is nice and easy.

It appears to have no pan or easily changable filter? is this the case?

It seems as though you just drain it from the plug at the base of the box and fill through the dipstick?

Is it this simple on these cars? (seems easy compared to my previous cars)

any tips tricks? and how many liters should i expect to change for a service?

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Yes, it's just that easy. One big drain plug on the bottom of the transmission and yes, fill through the dip stick tube. Ya need a long skinny funnel.
You can even download the Service manual from the SX4Club forum.

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OH, you have not filled out your personal and car info in your control panel.
Why not finish that off, so we know what state or country you're from and what model car you have?

If you have the AWD model, you have a rear differential that needs its fluid changed at 7500 miles, per warranty info.
Also there is a front gear box too, right behind the AT that should be changed.

If your AT fluid is still nice and red, not looking brown or scorched, don't worry about it. Also the power steering fluid.....same stuff, same thing applies to it to. Nice and pink? Leave it, but make sure it's full.
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depending on how long you let it drain, it should take between 4 - 4.5 liters
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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any gaskets or washers that need replaing on the drain plug?

any other tips and tricks?

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I could refer you back to the other forum (you really should go there) where we discussed the washer on the Oil Drain plug, for about two weeks. There were many misconceptions about that little washer, mostly from people who had never seen one.

The drain plug on the SX4 gets a flat copper washer, available at most auto parts stores, but doesn't absolutely have to be changed every time you change the oil. No other drain plug has a washer, but they do use a sealant on the threads when you put them back in.

The washer is not captured so it can fall off if you turn the drain plug down when you take it off.

Here's the new magnetic drain plug and new copper washer that I installed in my own SX4 the last time I changed the oil. I got them off the rack at my Advance Auto Parts store.



I always use a short wrench to tighten my oil drain plug, so I just get it tight but don't strip it out.

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I could refer you back to the other forum (you really should go there) where we discussed the washer on the Oil Drain plug, for about two weeks. There were many misconceptions about that little washer, mostly from people who had never seen one.

The drain plug on the SX4 gets a flat copper washer, available at most auto parts stores, but doesn't absolutely have to be changed every time you change the oil. No other drain plug has a washer, but they do use a sealant on the threads when you put them back in.

The washer is not captured so it can fall off if you turn the drain plug down when you take it off.

Here's the new magnetic drain plug and new copper washer that I installed in my own SX4 the last time I changed the oil. I got them off the rack at my Advance Auto Parts store.



I always use a short wrench to tighten my oil drain plug, so I just get it tight but don't strip it out.

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I recommend to always replace the washer on any drain plug. They can only properly crush once.
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But Jeff, buddy, it's NOT a crush washer. It's a FLAT washer, just like we've been using on cars for over fifty years.
And most fifty year old cars are still using the stock washer.
Unfortunately, some may still be using the stock oil.

I'd venture a guess that NO quick oil change shop ever replaces those washers and I'll bet you lunch that most dealers don't either.
And, when properly tightened, they don't leak either.
My first two oil changes were done by my Suzuki dealer and they did NOT change the washer. But they did leave the filter loose on the second change.

That argument about drain plug washers went on for over two weeks on the other forum.

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any idea what the factory torque setting is for the automatic drain plug?

ill check that other site out too

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YES! You need to check out the SX4Club forum, because Stickied to the top of one of the topics is the Factory Service manual for the SX4, with all the Torgue Spec's for every bolt on the car. Download it to your own PC.
Between the Service Manual and your owners manual, you won't have to ask many questions.

The Service Manual is downloadable and it's in PDF format.
I use Foxit Reader to read it, because Adobe Reader just got too big and too invasive. I'm now sharing Foxit Reader with all my Computer Customers, who need to read PDF files.

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But Jeff, buddy, it's NOT a crush washer. It's a FLAT washer, just like we've been using on cars for over fifty years.
And most fifty year old cars are still using the stock washer.
Unfortunately, some may still be using the stock oil.

I'd venture a guess that NO quick oil change shop ever replaces those washers and I'll bet you lunch that most dealers don't either.
And, when properly tightened, they don't leak either.
My first two oil changes were done by my Suzuki dealer and they did NOT change the washer. But they did leave the filter loose on the second change.

That argument about drain plug washers went on for over two weeks on the other forum.

I'm with Larry. Why cheap out on a 25 cent part. Midas changes the washer when I have to use them in winter (gravel drive and no garage). True it isn't a crush washer, but it is copper, a soft metal that deforms and fatigues. OTOH, I have re-used washers when I started an oil change and found I didn't have a replacement handy. I just wouldn't do it too often. As far as older cars? I bought a few used vehicles where I had to buy a new plug/washer combo because they'd drip constantly. As far as basing not changing the washer on a dealer that can't properly install a filter....
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