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Old 04-18-2017, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, new to this form and so far has been really helpful. So I have a 93 Suzuki Sidekick 1.6l manual 5 speed. So recently I installed a new deck (sound system) and ever since that I have had no lights, I've looked al over and tried rewiring to no avail. Before I got this vehicle other people have gone through and done their share of things to it. I have two plugs behind the stereo with no home. Second I have two wires behind the stereo with no home, one used to go the the stereo but no longer gets a 12 volts instead it gets a .002 volts and comes back as a ground when hooked up to a multimeter. At this point I'm really lost on what options to take if anyone has any ideas I'd be more than happy. Thank you
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First - have you checked the fuses?

Second - we are not next to you, so we have to depend on you to accurately report what is happening - no lights except brights would suggest that you have no park/dash/side lights or low beam headlights - the problem with that is the park/dash/side lights is on one fuse and the headlights each have their own fuse, so, whilst there is a dash light feed behind the stereo, and it's not uncommon for an inexperienced installer to short it to ground and blow the fuse, that would not affect the headlights, so it would sound like you either have multiple problems, or, you may not be reporting the symptoms accurately.

Third - a multimeter won't tell you if something is a ground - it can tell you if there is continuity, and so that you understand the difference, try connecting your multimeter to the turn signal bulb (you haven't mentioned a problem with the turn signals so they are presumably working) - both sides of the bulb will have continuity to ground - but both of them cannot be ground if the turn signals are in working order.

For the park/dash/side lights - find the fuse that protects the park/dash/side lights and replace it - if it fails again there is a short circuit, most likely in the stereo wiring.

For the headlights - tell us exactly which lights are working and which are not - high beam, low beam and passing/flash - high is the stalk away from the wheel, low is mid position, flash is toward the wheel.
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If there is a red/yellow wire floating around this is the suspect for shorting to earth/ground.
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Sorry fordem, let me be a little more accurate. The Highbeams and the turn signals are the only lights that work at all. I have checked all of the fuses and they come back good. I was curious so I jumped a inline fused wire to the correct wire on the backside of the instrument panel to see if I get lights, which yes they did come on, but then I lost my ability to use my blinker. So I assumed somewhere down the line, a wire was not connected to where it should be drawing power from, or that the ground wire was not grounded properly. Which takes me back to the red/yellow wire, would this wire be behind the stereo?
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You either have multiple problems or problems with multiple circuits which all come together at the combination switch.

Find where the wiring comes out of the steering column and follow it to the connector and check for voltage there.

Park/side/dash light wiring from the switch to the lights is red/yellow - I believe from the fuse to the switch is red/blue.

Low beam from the headlight to the switch is red/white - power flows from the fuse to the headlight to the switch to ground.
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Section 8 here may help you with some of the wiring diagrams:
http://acksfaq.com/2016bp.php?urlnam...trackerfsm.htm
(Note that you would not have the daytime running lights or its controller)
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Section 8 here may help you with some of the wiring diagrams:
http://acksfaq.com/2016bp.php?urlnam...trackerfsm.htm
(Note that you would not have the daytime running lights or its controller)
Thanks Bex! This wiring diagram really helped, found the wires and traced them back to a home.

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You either have multiple problems or problems with multiple circuits which all come together at the combination switch.

Find where the wiring comes out of the steering column and follow it to the connector and check for voltage there.

Park/side/dash light wiring from the switch to the lights is red/yellow - I believe from the fuse to the switch is red/blue.

Low beam from the headlight to the switch is red/white - power flows from the fuse to the headlight to the switch to ground.
Thank's fordem! So last night I got every light but my low beams working. I have brights, all marker lights with parking lights, and all interior lights. The only thing I lack is low beams. Now with this issue I am not sure where to begin. I traced the wires back like before, and found that it has a power, and is grounded properly. I can jump a wire and get my right one working, but then I lose blinkers. All fuses are okay, ohmed them all out, and they all receive 12 volts on both sides of the wire after the fuse. Got any further ideas I could try?

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If the high beams are working (high beams, not the passing/flash) that means most of your headlight wiring is intact - go back to the headlights and start there ...

Each headlight has three wires - there will be a red/white and a red at both lamps - meter negative to battery negative, meter positive to red - lights off should have 12V, high beams on should have 0V (or close to it) - if you're not getting this let me know.

Meter positive to red/white - lights off should have 12V, low beams on should have 0V or close to it - if you're not getting the 12V - check the bulbs - if you're getting the 12V but not the 0V, find the connector under the dash and repeat the exercise there - meter positive on the red/white wire - lights off 12V, low beams on should have 0V or close to it - if you're still getting the 12V but not the 0V, the problem will be in the combination switch or the wiring leading to it.
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... So last night I got every light but my low beams working. I have brights, all marker lights with parking lights, and all interior lights. The only thing I lack is low beams. ...

... and found that it has a power, and is grounded properly. I can jump a wire and get my right one working, but then I lose blinkers. All fuses are okay, ohmed them all out, and they all receive 12 volts on both sides of the wire after the fuse. Got any further ideas I could try?
1. It is not that uncommon to find both headlight low beam filaments burnt out at the same time. While they do have similar life expectancy, it isn't that they both go at the same time, just many drivers do not notice one light out until the other goes out!

2. Note that Suzuki, like many Japanese cars, wires the headlights as GROUND switched. The headlights always have power, (it is common to the two filaments) and the H/L part of the combo switch provides the ground to the desired filament for it to light. So... what do you mean by "grounded properly" ???

3. Depending on what wires you have jumped, you might be providing a ground to the headlight through the blinker circuit... are you sure it is the low beam filament that lights when you "jump it?" (see #1, and the wire colors and locations would help us help you.)
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