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Old 02-17-2017, 10:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I haven't got it off yet, haven't got an Allen key or Torx to fit it yet, hopefully picking 1 up later.
Thank you for them videos I'll be watching them later.
I read on here somewhere that the plastic bit that you hold that turns the hubs to locked comes off if you just pull it, obviously marking or remembering if it was in locked or unlocked when you take it off.
I took both to have a look and they are nearly dry and the grease that is there is red from rust so I'm hoping that's the culprit....... But, with the gear lever being stiff, i have a gut feeling the common problem they get in the gearbox is the main problem. I don't know exactly how to fix that. From reading on here, it's fiddly but manageable to do yourself, my problem is weather and tools. So will have to be a garage job. Gotta love these cars lol 😁

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I find that with my hubs locked, the car does feel a bit slower - or doesn't 'roll' as well, and the mileage suffers. There's a great video on the forum, post #5 here, where the guy services the hubs completely. He does it with one hand, while holding a camera with the other, so no excuses!:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...nual-hubs.html

If all you are doing is the locking mechanism, this is a pretty good write up, as well.
Manual Hub Clutch Assembly

How did you finally get the locker off??
Well that was fun....... Not sure what my hubs are but they're not aisin hubs not even sure if they are manual or fixed after looking at another site. Took drivers hub off and looks ok, cleaned and greased and now thinking I'm stuck as to what it could be as I can't find the post on the transference box 😱 any ideas anyone?? Still stuck in 4wd
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Your last photo, showing you holding the hub, shows that there is a dial there to move from lock to free - that would indicate that these are manual hubs. And while the dial itself looks similar to an Aisin, the middle photo, where you show the inside of the hub, isn't one, as Aisin didn't use plastic pieces in their manual hubs. I believe that the UK may have used different OEM hubs at some point. But with regard to your transfer case - how are you ascertaining that it is in 4wd?? While there may be other ways to do this, if you jack up the front of your car so that one wheel is off the ground, and lock your hubs, can you spin the wheel that is off the ground? If you can, your transfer case is not in 4wd....????
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Hi bex, this is now my problem, the mechanic who did the mot said it was stuck in 4wd, when I drive it struggles to reach 60mph now, (yet used to do 80mph easy), front wheels spin when driving in wet conditions if I put my foot on the accelerator to quick, it's starting get harder to change gear..... But there's no 4wd light on, the wheel spins freely when jacked up, granted not locked the hubs and spun them yet,..... So I am totally confused 😕 lol, any ideas would be greatly and gratefully appreciated.

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Those hubs look like what were on my '97 Tracker, which I got rid of due to the plastic guts. I called them GM corporate hubs, but apparently they were used in other markets, possibly a Suzuki cost cutting measure.
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Well I've just been out again and tried to strip the hub, 3 out of the 4 screws holding the main part of the hub, after taking cover off, have rounded off, their stuck solid. So rather than drill them out now with nothing to replace them with, will get more.
I tried the lock with wheel jacked bex and it turns. So I am well and truly stumped.
I can't understand the lack of speed, the gears getting stiffer, the more use of fuel, and the jolts when changing gear. Not to mention all of the previous problems listed.
Think I'm going to have to change the hubs full stop. I don't like the idea of plastic.
Anyone with any ideas please feel free to shout them out.


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It will probably be very difficult to get a locking plier (Vise-Grips) on the socket head, so, you may want to drill the head(s) off, remove the hub, then use Vise-Grips on the stub. When drilling use plenty of PBblaster, Kroil, etc, the heat generated by the drill bit may assist in penetrating the threads. If this doesn't do the job heat will, just be careful around the bearings & seal, you may want to use a heat shield/sink. Good luck.

ps In an old issue of Engine Builder Magazine, it was suggested to hammer in a cheap Torx hex drive bit, slightly larger than the stripped hex recess, then remove with an impact or ratchet. Let us know how you make out.
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The screws are posi drive, and very soft, they are screwed in tight and rounded off so easy am beginning to think this car has been "bodged" back together and I'm going to have to replace most things. The 4 screws are on this pic before I attempted to get them off.
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Those 4 screws are to access the bearing(s) for service. You already have the manual locking hub removed.
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Ok thank you, any idea how to get the locking bit out to service?? I don't have a garage to work in and limited tools. I've greased what I can at the min but I'm worried about being too heavy handed and breaking the plastic 😱

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