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Old 02-16-2013, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 98 Sidekick 1.8L - P0335 code, crankshaft position sensor error, Transmission removal

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About 5 years ago I bought a used 1998 Suzuki Sidekick for my wife. Overall it’s been a good vehicle and has only had minor issues. I need to have the vehicle pass the local emissions testing, but I’m getting a SES light with a P0335 code, which translates to a crankshaft position sensor error. The vehicle runs OK so I’m assuming the crankshaft position sensor is only used for knock detection. If I didn’t need to get the vehicle through emissions I would not be concerned.

Here is the vehicle info:
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport, 4x4, 4-door
1.8L engine
Automatic transmission
130K miles

I saw this post - http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...122-po123.html - where this issue was discussed. The person seemed to resolve the issue by re-connecting the large connector under the intake manifold. I tried that and unfortunately that did not fix my issue.

From what I have read, to get to the crankshaft position sensor you have to remove the transmission and flywheel. I called the local Suzuki dealer and asked for an estimate on replacing the crankshaft position sensor and over the phone he gave me a quote of $1,650 + tax. He also confirmed that the transmission has to be removed to get to the sensor. I talked to a different garage a couple of days ago and they thought they could fix it for $400-500 in labor plus parts. This is better, but still more than I want t pay.

I just put the vehicle up on jacks today with the hopes of finding a bad harness or connector, but I cannot locate the harness for that sensor.

Has anyone ever replaced the crankshaft sensor? Can anyone tell me where it is located and/or post a picture of its location?

Am I overlooking anything? Can anything other than the crankshaft sensor and/or harness cause this error? Can a bad ECM cause this error?

Has anyone ever removed an automatic transmission from a Sidekick with the 1.8L? Do I need to remove the transaxle? Are any special tools required? Any tips?

Thanks!
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Before pulling the sensor, big job, I would test it to verify that the sensor is the issue... The testing can be accomplished with a MM/DVOM or scope...

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Before pulling the sensor, big job, I would test it to verify that the sensor is the issue... The testing can be accomplished with a MM/DVOM or scope...

Testing Crankshaft Position Sensor CPS Inductive - YouTube
How to Test Crankshaft and Camshaft sensors 1 - YouTube ... Philip
I'm still trying to locate the harness for the sensor

From what I read the sensor is supposed to be located at 4:00 on the engine/transmisison area if you are looking from inside the vehicle. I have looked all around the circumfrence of where the engine and transmission meet and nothing seems to match.
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On the 1.8 the location is different - back of engine, behind the flywheel. See Fordem's post here:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...-location.html
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Some light reading..
Part 1 -Crank and Cam Sensor Diagnostic Basics

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On the 1.8 the location is different - back of engine, behind the flywheel. See Fordem's post here:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...-location.html
Great info! I was looking in the wrong spot.
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Part 1 -Crank and Cam Sensor Diagnostic Basics

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Thanks! This is a big help.
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Well I ended up taking the Side Kick to a garage near my work (not the Suzuki Dealer) to have the crankshaft sensor replaced. They charged me $640 for parts, labor and tax, which was a steal compared to what the Suzuki Dealer wanted to charge me. The garage owner let me know that parts are getting harder to find for these cars and I may want to start saving for a new vehicle.

Thanks for the help!
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Thanks for the update, and glad that all is sorted. Yes, the Suzuki Sport is not well supported and there were not many of them made, so parts would be fairly difficult to find, particularly as Suzuki is now withdrawing from the US market. If you do like the Sport, you may want to think about the Sidekick/Tracker - basically the same truck, but much less complicated and easier to run/repair. But, of course, getting older by the minute....
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