Wheels Dragging in 4 Wheel Drive

[Bex]

Also, here is a link on how to service the locker:
Manual Hub Clutch Assembly
There is also a video on the forum that shows you how to take apart the entire locking hub and service it - it should come up if you search for it.

[tmemmer]

Thanks a lot Bex, i really appreciate it.I'll try the ratio test, check the hubs, and do all the tests that all of you have mentioned on monday. I just hope the ratios aren't off. I've been unemployed for about three months now, and can't afford an expensive fix. Oh, i was gonna ask you, the hub bolts aren't in very good condition; may have to use an extraction socket to get some of them off. Are new ones fairly inexpensive and easy to get?????How do you find videos on the forum?? I did a few searches, but didn't find anything. Didn't know if there was a certain section that i had to go to. Thanks again for the help and advice(from all you guys), and all the quick replys. I hope after doing this stuff monday, that i'll have found the problem.

May God Bless and Keep Safe,


Tim

[Bex]

The hub bolts on my car weren't bolts at all, but rather screws with an allen wrench head. I took one off at the auto parts store, and bought a similar one but with a philips screw head on it. On my hubs, the recess that the screw fits in would not really allow for any grip on a bolt. If you just take one off at an auto parts or hardware store, you should be able to find a replacement with the same length, thread, etc. Otherwise a junkyard or someone parting out their car.
The search function on this forum is not the best - I normally use Google advanced search if I need to find something. The hub video is in post 13 here:
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...g-noise-2.html
Good luck, and let us know how you get on.

[tmemmer]

Hey, thanks for all your help Bex! I Really Appreciate it! Yeah, i hope i can get those screws out, mine are the same, with allen heads. But one, especially on the drivers side, is rounded out in the middle. Thats why i said i would probably haft to use an extraction socket. Then i'll replace them with ones like you described, so it won't be so hard next time. Anyway, like i said, i'll take the hubs off and do them monday, plus the ratio test, ect..and see how it all shakes out. Thanks again for all your help, all of you!!!!

May God Bless and Keep Safe,

Tim

[Bex]

I had similar like that - I basically had to hammer a torx head into it, to make the additional 'grooves' and then was able to get it out with the torx wrench. Of course, the screw was, well, screwed after that, so had to replace them.

[tmemmer]

Hey, i hear ya. Sometimes the major job is just getting the screws/bolts out, so you can get to the work you wanna do. Thanks for the torx method info, may haft to use that monday. Thanks again Bex.


May God Bless and Keep Safe,


Tim

[tmemmer]

Hey Guys. Did all the tests today. The axle ratio was 2.25 drive shaft rotations to one wheel rotation on both axles. I took off the hubs, and they looked really good. their different from the ones i had on the sidekick. these you can't take the outside top off of. they look different from the pictures you sent me. they have some type of white retainer thing holding everything in, and then the spline nut sits behind that. they worked great; when i had it in free, it spun free, when locked, it locked. so i regreased them and the splines on the axles, and put them back on. oh, and when i had them off and on, the wheels spun free. and i know the brakes are good, because i went through them and replaced some stuff this last week. so now the question is, where do i go from here???? By all indications so far, it seems like it's internal somewhere, or in the "pumpkin" as you guys say. So what should i check next????


May God Bless and Keep Safe,

Tim

[fordem]

2.25:1 drive shaft to wheel rotations cannot be correct - I believe it's somewhere between 4~6

[tmemmer]

Hey Fordem. Yeah, i was thinking the same thing. I did it twice;had a friend rotate the wheel while i watched the drive shaft. I don't know whats going on with it. I have a friend at a local shop thats gonna take a look at it for me tommorow. Hopefully he'll be able to pinpoint it. Thanks again for all your help,I'll let you know what happens.



May God Bless and Keep Safe,


Tim

[fordem]

I'm thinking I gave you the wrong instructions - it's not rotate the wheel once and divide by two - it's rotate the wheel twice and count the drive shaft.

My apologies for that - what's important really is that both front & rear have the same count.