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Old 01-29-2013, 10:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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seems to run some times? , and well?, or just smoke and low power running????
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Have fuel at fuel rail. Have spark, service engine light on when you turn the key on
this means nothing, (got fuel)
fuel at the rail, means zero, 1psi will not run any EFI car. (it's not carb car.)
got spark , spark where?, all 4? plugs?
the timing, was it always correct? if not how far off, ?
that dizzy does not do advance the ECU does that job.
Im sorry you pulled the dizzy, as it is now probably timed one of 4 ways.
each way requires different spark wire routing, you compounded the problems.

the spark needs to be hot at 4 spark plugs
must not be crosswired, rotor turns CCW, 1,3,4,2, is it? (do you know how to find True DTC #1 firing point?,ask)
the spark must not be dead when the car stalls.
the spark plugs must not be fuel soaked when it dies (LOOK at spark tips)
if it motor is flooding, find that out, and adding more fuel to a flooded motor , just makes more misfiring...

the motor can stall for many reasons/ (good engine)
1: egr mAIN stuck open. (remove it , clean it make sure it snaps shut loud and hard)
2: lost spark ( stalls.? , if never runs, add: timing is way off)
3: lost fuel (try test fuel now)
4: too much fuel. called flooding. it misfires and dies, due to spark shorting out at plugs.

read the spark tips, they talk to you, what are they saying now.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:00 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Okay. I'm doing it right now.
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plugs look rich will not fire with fluid ,great spark at plug have not touched dist since it ran great
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egr not stuck
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when i first got running checked timing belt position tdc set rotor button to 1 on cap it ran great drove a few times . egr is clean plugs slightly wet and black new plugs . will not start with fluid
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Well if it's not flooded, and it's firing and no start...I'd suspect timing, either ignition OR valve.

How about a compression test?
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slightly wet and black new plugs . will not start with fluid
says it flooded, or timed all wrong. (cam or spark)
or bad motor (compression test, fails)

the correct order if testing is:
motor (cam timing is big deal)
spark (timing is a big deal)
right here, test fuel works (tank empty or pump disabled)
fueling. last.
its up to you , to do it , in that order or try it backwards, and pull hair.

FLOODING, has 2 paths.:
think of flooding like this
dead motors with bad cam timing or gross spark timing, cant burn fuel so fuel stacks up. and floods.... the more you crank the worse it gets.... no matter....
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Excessive fuel injection, just that. (perfect motor and spark)
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I pull the fuel pump relay and pump (crank) it dry, then try test fuel . verommmmmmmmmm stall.
if engine now starts and runs for 3 seconds with test fuel each try and sounds good?
then motor is good and you have true excessive fuel injection. Just one pull of one lil ol part.
if true excess? fueling , only? runs ok on test fuel?

reasons.? many... here are just 3 , as an example.
is fuel pressure at 60psi ????? a stuck Fuel pump reg does that, flood motor.... so do stuck open injectors,

or no scannmer (blind work), you missed out on the fact the ECT reads at -40F? and all DTC codes set ,saying just that?

do you know where your relay is>? it's here
easier on any kick is remove left rear tail light, leans, then pull the big connector with the big pink wire, (1 min time to do) and pump is dead, fuel pump.
below takes me, 10mins to do .




(1,2,3., motor good, spark good, fueling ,good, always works...... every time.
x2 , compression test. WOT> , wide open throttle. (warm best, but cold works too)

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Do a compression test and post your numbers. You need to confirm that this car is timed correctly, before looking elsewhere.
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Do a compression test
That suggestion is up to X3 now, so I guess we have a consensus?
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x4 now!! This should really be done first thing.....
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