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Old 12-23-2012, 05:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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a10 is the cover number (rain shield?)
a32 is on all 89/90 ecu , Im not sure where an a10 fits. at all.
id do a ww search on my EPC to find it but im south of the equator , remote....

you are on track.
bad injector.
and bad ecu.
many shops do NOT fix/exhange/rebuld 60A ecu's. a warning...

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Old 12-23-2012, 06:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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this is the one I am looking at..

why are the 60a*** so rare? just because of the two year coverage?
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These ECU's only deal with those two years - 89/90. Starting in 91, the ECU also governs spark, whereas in 89/90 it is governed by the distributor, so a different set up. If you open your ECU, you may be able to see where the damage is. If, for example, it is the injector transistors, it is possible to replace them (but then don't hook up the ECU until you have replaced or repaired the injector and/or its wiring). I believe that normally, it is the injector or its wiring shorting, that damages the transistors in the ECU, rather than a fault in the ECU that causes the damage to the injector.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:41 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Ok. makes sense.. Thanks for all the help. I believe I'm gonna buy the one to get me running and replace my injector. Then see if I can repair the one I have myself- just to see if I can.
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looks, non usa to me, sure in not on the USA list ,and yes 89/90 are unique,
get; the a32'

those are the USA numbs and Canada
i think the a10 is an import. from Canada or worse....
Canada Pontiac or sunrunners? lots off odd kick cars there.
tell bex to do the epc f6 search world wide on EPC , on the first page.
using full nnnnnn-60A10 pn.
id bet it finds yours. who know it might be wrong.

what if it was not even valid for sidekicks/trackers.
it dont look right to me..
ours are marked US MT below the sticker.
gander this,
http://www.fixkick.com/ECU/EPC-ECU96...95/89-95NA.pdf


FYI:
the CEL in no way tells you if the ECU is good or anything much.
only that it did boot and has power." and no opens/shorts (dead)
it does not monitor anything much but gross sensor shorts and total opens.
all other issues it can not discover ;. and generates no spark in 89/90.
IT only injects fuel. and cuts fuel if it discovers , no spark.


if i had a 90 GEO harness. id want a matching 90 ECU. -60A32.
i have no idea what an A10 might be.
Guess 1, is canada gray market that has no egr tests or or no EGR at all.

just a wild guess? out of Canada off some gray market 89/90 Vitara./ Kick
the reason i raise this spector of wonder, is because there are
ecu's that only work with non usa distributors...n(read back side)
The monitor pin my be on a different pin.
get a working a32.
and it will run... maybe someone has a list of below A32 ecu.
i saw an A31 once and dont know what that was either.
may be its a GM modified ECU. GEO
if yes. what did GM changed.

the ECU has lots of options.
smog
4wd ; issues
door count and load table changes.
tranny

you 56B ecus are worthless. to 89/90 .

get and A32


if you did my advanced NOID tests.
you'd know which of the two $2 transistors were bad and have it fixed by now'.
there is no shortage of bad ECU, laying about... fix it.

as with all electronics not just ecu,s
do not replace the main board, until the outputs (loads) on said ecu are no t shorted. see my bad wires page.
this is on page one in the ECU FSM section, is is dead accurate.

PS:
this is a 90-GEo-frankensammi.
and as all frankens, we have no idea at all what is there.?

are you running legit fuel loop?
from tank pump >> forward , to TB, out of TB to FPreg then returnline.
if not the injector may just burn up again.
it is fuel cooled and must run in a SToCK loop.
whose fuel tank?

i can think of 100 more questions but stop.

the 89/90 has a unique injector than any 91 plus
the ecu may have different injection rates on this injector.
so dont mix up throttle bodies on 89/90s with 91+

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If you google the ECU number, there are a lot of hits for it under Vitara as well as Geo and Sidekick. So perhaps one of the early ECU's from Japan.
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am fully ware of that fact.
and that the car is a Franken-sammi,,,,, see my other post where I work that
to the correct path, since its not stock ,and my head has a bag over it.

just wanted to know exactly what it came off..... in electronics, it all must work right.

ASI - 1990-1994-Geo-Suzuki-Tracker-Sidekick-ECU-Rebuild

89 era is very poorly documented. and rare, Due to Consumer reports Sammi issues. sadly.. in Europe way diff....


seems its off a vitara from canada... or off ebay EU or ?
they are all over south america, im there now and am fully aware of these too.

id fix it for free if i was home. (but would not do a franken less full spec's)
i still have my bench jig. and scope ready.

bex is your EPC dead?
i posted this long ago when not so old and so brain dead, i forget the 1.3L
see that in the EPC?
seems i found it here in post #8? or is it wrong.? wish i could look it up.


http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...-computer.html

yes, there is a 1.3L engine. in 1989 (the ugly ducklng)
this poster loves to mix up EFI parts. its ok, i understand franken people.
i do NOT have direct hands on ,with any 1.3L , so use the EPC
under 1.3 and do the base page F6 search by ecu p/n and find it.



he needs to slow down and use the EPC and get the right parts,
IMO


so AM I RIGHT,
60A10 = 1.3L and FAIL? i cant look it up now...


i believe the EPC , with google you land on the inane. (endless)
eg: ebay sells 56bxx ecu all the time to 89.\/90 drivers and i useless to them
"fits 89-95 \" lie....see all of over the net and is wrong.
like , that post, "they are all the same" what joke, and 100% wrong.

i think Rhinoman has all 60axx data... what are a10s"??

which raises more franken questions
is engine sn, G13 s.n or G16
is intake the right? for G,see above (60a or 56b intake)
is TB matching Gxx 60a or 56b?
is ecu matchng, Gxx ?
for sure I dont know.... and all count. and must work together and match.
so does the harness, is it really off 90 Geo>?

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The 89 sidekick that has the 1.3 does not use the trackick gold colored metal ECM. They use the small black plastic ECM, like the carbed samurais (I think it is actually the same exact ECM that they used in the samurais).

All of the 89/90 1.6 trackick ECMs I have seen have had 33920-60Axx numbers on them. And they all have the gold colored metal cases.

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yes, 60A is the right era and engine. 80/81c is sammi
56b is 91+
i just have no info on 89 G13s.... (nor is Frankensammi build page, )
get a32
you will be much better served.
ill leave you to him, I dont like undocumented cars, not under my hands.
its a crap shoot.


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Pontiac kicks (canada)
JDM's
i tread easy ,with all these land mines.... you do as you wish.

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33920-60A10 is the ECU for 89/90 Sidekicks for Canada (spec code E28), as per the EPC
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