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Old 11-28-2012, 01:24 PM   #71 (permalink)
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did you See the last digits in the number?
the 98T is the clue, !!
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96: 96 is the code for the maximum load that the tire can support. This will also be written in teeny weeny writing along the innermost part of the tire.
T: speed rating. T is basically for top speed of 118mph, family sedan and vans.
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the 98 code, does not dictate the load tables, each tire has its own.
some do match ,some don't
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the 98 code, does not dictate the load tables, each tire has its own.
some do match ,some don't
I inflate all of them to 35 psi tonight and feel much better steering. The Goodyear Viva2 does have a different sidewall than others.



The area that has 'Viva 2' label on it is very soft, softer than my two tires that have been replaced, and softer than same size tire of Brand 'General Tire'.

Passenger Front is Firestone 'FR380(like a series name)', made at week 48 year 08.

Driver Front is Dayton Quadra LTE, made at week 38 year 05.

All of them provide max load 750kg at max pressure - 44psi.

Just find out, the walmart guy mounted my 'Dayton Quadra LTE' inside out. The side with DOT number is inside, NOT outside as it supposed to be. It this a big issue?
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complex. topic, lots of tire designes, huh? Pxxx tires, LT tires, and LRR..

there is no direction arrow on your tire. (most top brands don't have that, some very cheap ones did , not seen in over 20 years.....)

see this page, see that not all tires, can be run backwards after USE: (lawsuits aplenty)
Tire Rotation - Discount Tire

these tires come apart when crossed, 171 dead. (history) but is something to consider, the Crossing risks
Firestone: Firestone cuts deal on bad tires

good tips here ( calif passed legislation mandating buying new tires , that they offer the same LRR tires. !) so that created huge market there. and the LRR STORM
See 32psi comment here.
http://mapawatt.com/2011/05/13/low-r...ce-tire-guide/
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You have to be careful with LRR tires since they can have low traction levels when stopping in the wet.
here: (not rumor, read it.)
http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/Lrr%20Tires

all new cars have this tire, LRR

again the max load is for that tire on a car that can do MAX load. your 3000 car will never reach that 6612 lbs ,statically or dynamically (id hope)
the 44 psi is cold pressure only and is max. when you drive in AZ on a hot summer day, with full load, this number becomes important. (it goes higher naturally)

the only question, imo, is will 23 psi be good in THAT YG (or ?) RLL TIRE?
the D.O.T reports on topic ,passenger tires, said most tires below 24 PSI , are dangerous. (lost stability) The is a number Generic. My car runs stock tires and is 26.
The GY site has vast data sheets on truck and LT tires, and not one offered for passenger tires. My guess is the lawyers block them.
for sure i don't know, only that the tables really do exist. (mfg, have access to info we don't)

i'd find a 3000 lb ,(sport 4dr is that) new car with VIVA 2 and run their tag pressure for a start. (given the vacuum of data)

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quality tires can be run backwards, (i've seen many cheap imports that you can not , see large arrow? on tire (direction)
except the infamous Firestone ruling. on radials. they come apart.
im sure Bridges-tone (Firstones owners) corrected that long ago. 8years? IIRC
surely, rotating tires cross wises is the risk, and as you stated
many folks do that, just to hide the ugly white letters, on some brands.
clearly there is a min. pressure on all tries run a 500 (potential)
There is NO arrow sign. But I doubt, the pattern that evacuates water would be in reverse direction.

In fact, the walmart guy, mounted wrong tire(my server dry-rod one with good tread) to this rim, and then mounted the ‘Dayton’ one with minor dry-rod to this rim after their closing hour(but they made mistake and they took the responsible). I am worried about taking out and mount this old tire again will shorten its life or leave some potential problem. If NOT, I will definitely try letting them to mount it correct.
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ask the tire maker,
siping can be directional? no way....
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would be in reverse direction.
you mean ? would work or function ,right, not be?
the only questions are:
reversal after running, (as you can see they sell 2 kinds of tires today,) the link above. (many say" tires take a set at 4000 miles, makers")
and pressure . at your load. and down sides to running max. (wet performance)

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Some photos in the link that might help you. Unidirectional (can only go on one way) normally have a V pattern, or some pattern that looks different when rotated backwards. Multidirectional tires normally have a pattern that goes across the tire, so it looks the same regardless of which way they spin.
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ask the tire maker,
siping can be directional? no way....

you mean ? would work or function ,right, not be?
the only questions are:
reversal after running, (as you can see they sell 2 kinds of tires today,) the link above. (many say" tires take a set at 4000 miles, makers")
and pressure . at your load. and down sides to running max. (wet performance)
All my tire has similar pattern like the one in the picture(attachment)? Is this Symmetrical Tire Tread Pattern?

Now, my two new Viva2 have DOT label outside, but the tread pattern is pointing same direction, like

Driver Rear vs Passenger Rear
outside \ vs \ outside
outside \ vs \ outside
outside \ vs \ outside

Based on that, I just guess the tread pattern direction doesn't matter in this case.

All my tires are the similar pattern, one side \ to the other side. But, they are not in same direction like
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there are directional patterned tires made
but no hits on VIVA 2, so ????
i tired hard to get a data sheet on that tire. I failed.
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there are directional patterned tires made
but no hits on VIVA 2, so ????
i tired hard to get a data sheet on that tire. I failed.
directional means that they can go both direction, outside and inside doesn't matter?

The picture is one of my Viva 2(passenger rear), and the camera was pointing to the rear of the car.

All my tires have the similar pattern just like viva 2 shown in the picture.
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