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Old 02-21-2012, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bigger oil filter available???

I was just wondering if a larger size oil filter will work on our Trackers/Sidekicks. I'm not having any problems, but thought bigger should be better as long as it functions properly. Anybody have any ideas about this? I used the search function, but didn't see this talked about.
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Here is a toilet paper oil filter: Toilet Paper Oil Filter?. It has a housing that uses a roll of toilet paper for filtration. You can replace the roll of toilet paper as needed.

Unfortunately, I do not think that it will take the place of your regular oil filter. The toilet paper filter appears to be an inline filter that requires two hoses. The supply hose attaches to the oil pressure sending unit with a T-fitting. The return hose can be attached in one of several places: valve intake cover, oil filler tube, oil reservoir pan or an adapter ring on the regular oil filter. Iím told that a Samurai engine has a removable plug over an opening where the return hose can be attached to.

If the toilet paper oil filter is too big, you can always call JC Whitney and ask for a high mileage oil filter.
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There's more than just matching the physical attributes of the filter - thread size and sealing ring diameter, and the housing diameter and length - unless you have the technical knowledge to make your own decisions - stick with the manufacturers recommendation, in fact I go so far as to use only OEM Suzuki filters on my vehicle.

Suzuki filters have an "anti-drain-back" valve which is not present in all filters, and this prevents oil from draining back to the sump when the engine is off - if you don't use this type of filter on the Suzuki H & J series engines you can expect problems with the timing chains.

There are aftermarket filters with anti-drain-back valves, but given the fact that an OEM filter costs only a buck or two more than the aftermarket, I don't see a reason to buy anything else.
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The reason I brought this up is I was reading this website Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources and the guy mentions that a good replacement for a certain filter was a larger one. I know the filter must have the correct thread size, sealing surface, anti drain back valve, etc. The advantage is a larger filter should have more filter surface area, hence less restriction. It would also hold more oil capacity giving the oil system slightly more volume hence more engine protection.
Possibly there are no larger filters for the Trackers/Sidekicks, if not then I'll continue to use the little filters.
I've heard of the toilet paper roll filter system, but don't have enough faith in it. Thanks for all the responses.
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At GM Parts Direct: Your direct source for Genuine GM Parts, an oil filter for the 1998 Chevrolet Tracker is only $3.84.
At Suzuki Parts | OEM Suzuki Parts | Genuine Suzuki Parts, an oil filter for the 1989 Suzuki Sidekick is only $5.10.

Now, I wonder if the Tracker filter can fit the Sidekick.
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The reason I brought this up is I was reading this website Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources and the guy mentions that a good replacement for a certain filter was a larger one. I know the filter must have the correct thread size, sealing surface, anti drain back valve, etc. The advantage is a larger filter should have more filter surface area, hence less restriction. It would also hold more oil capacity giving the oil system slightly more volume hence more engine protection.
Possibly there are no larger filters for the Trackers/Sidekicks, if not then I'll continue to use the little filters.
I've heard of the toilet paper roll filter system, but don't have enough faith in it. Thanks for all the responses.
As far as I'm aware there is no correlation between physical filter size and filter media surface area - there are several web pages where folks have cut filters apart and examined them - you can look at these, or you can do your own research.

On the capacity aspect - just how much more oil capacity do you expect to get into the system, and how much protection (and against what) will this add?

Incidentally - you can, if you're so inclined, fit a remote mount filter system, and then use as many filters as you like, with whatever surface area you choose - you're not limited to what you hang off the side of the engine block.

On a slightly related tangent - there are three cars parked in my driveway (they should be listed in my signature), a compact hatch with a 1.3 litre engine, and two small 4WDs, one with a 1.8 litre engine and the other with a 2.0 litre engine.

Two out of the three have the same oil pan capacity - 3.75 litres - and the third takes 6 litres - would you like to guess which is which?
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I can't see getting enough more oil in a larger filter to make any difference in engine life,be better off to change it more often,just my opinion.
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I would think a more important criteria would be the size of the particles that the filter media catches. Smaller is better so a filter with a small micron rating would be better than one with a larger rating. I use Purolator Gold for this reason (a Kick-Fix recommendation). It will catch smaller sized particles than the other alternatives. I change it and the oil frequently... and it has a rough surface coating that makes the installation and removal easier than others.
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I would think a more important criteria would be the size of the particles that the filter media catches. Smaller is better so a filter with a small micron rating would be better than one with a larger rating. I use Purolator Gold for this reason (a Kick-Fix recommendation). It will catch smaller sized particles than the other alternatives. I change it and the oil frequently... and it has a rough surface coating that makes the installation and removal easier than others.
I often wonder on what basis these "recommendations" are made - Purolator does not provide a "micron rating" for it's oil filters - it does state 99.9% efficient based on ISO 4548-12 at 20 microns on PL30001 for the PureONE filter and 97.5% efficent, again based on ISO 4548-12, for the classic Purolator
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