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Old 10-09-2011, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What clutch and fly wheel do y'all recommend I will not be off roading it I'm building my tracker more like a race or rally car
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Race or rally car.....
Is there something wrong with your clutch now, or are you just planning on changing it for, er, racing??
And put your car specs in your signature so people know what you have.
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psycho1991,
I think you might benefit from a short tutorial on flywheels and clutches. The flywheel has two main purposes. First, it absorbs the periodic pulses of power from the pistons to smooth out the delivery of power to the rest of the drive train. Second, it provides a reservoir of stored energy that can be tapped to get the wheels moving without having to rev the engine to high speeds. To do both of these things, flywheels are relatively heavy. Race cars engines typically do not need to store up extra energy in the flywheel, and they don't care about smoothing the power flow to the drive train. So, some race cars have much lighter flywheels to enable the engines to rev faster. This makes for quicker race cars, but makes street cars very unpleasant to drive.

Clutches also serve two primary purposes. First, they allow power from the engine to be smoothly transferred to the drive train for starting. Second, they allow full power from the engine to be transferred to the drive train without slipping. Race cars with powerful engines and sticky tires place huge loads on the entire drive train, so standard clutches sometimes cannot hold the load without slipping. Racing clutches use a variety of techniques to increase the hold of the clutch plate, but these techniques also reduce the ability of the clutch to produce a smooth start. Racing clutches are more like on-off switches and are not much fun to drive on the street.

I mention all the above as a way of suggesting you replace your failing clutch with stock components. Unless you both need racing components and are willing to put up with their unpleasant road manners, you'll be much happier with stock components.
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Thanks for the info but I know all that, I was askIng about the fly wheel cause I don't know much about them but I don't think I will be changing it, but I actually think I would benifit from an after market clutch not a full drag or racing one I was looking more at a stage 1 or stage 2 clutch, and from what as said about on/off switches I think that would help cause I hate the way you have to work a clutch so slow, I drive like a batt out of hell basically
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Drive like a bat out of hell? Then, sorry, but you have the wrong car!! Your car is a small 8v engine, 80 horsepower - no bats in that engine. But more importantly, your car is an SUV, meaning that you have a high center of gravity, which means that your car does NOT handle like a regular car. You will not be able to take curves like you can in a car, and in fast speed situations, your Trackick will not handle well enough to get you out of dangerous situations (probably why you went into a ditch at 25mph). If you need to drive in such a way, sell the Trackick and get something else.
The stock clutch is more than sufficient for this car, and is designed for the way the car works.
I think, frankly, you need to be doing something else more often, to get rid of all this testosterone.....
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I have a lightweight aluminum flywheel and a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch and pressure plate on my 16v. You would like this setup. A lot of people will tell you how your car will drive with a lighter flywheel but as far as I know I am the only one on this forum that actually has one. Also I'll am assuming you already know that making a Sidekick faster is stupid and ridiculous but you want to do it anyway. As far as drivability goes there is very little compromise. You can upgrade the clutch quite a bit and still be very streetable. My flywheel is very light and doesn't make it unpleasant to drive. In addition I have a very light aluminum pulley and have removed the power steering pump and fan so there is very little flywheel mass on mine and its still very easy to drive. I have removed about 300 lbs from the car so that helps. The Centerforce clutch is still very light and not to grabby at all. Will hold 130HP easily and can handle 5000 RPM clutch drops in 4WD. The aluminum flywheel is expensive but you can get lighter modified factory flywheels that are cheaper.





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Thanks for the help man, where did you get the aluminum pulley and fly wheel, also I'm looking to get 130 to 150 horse power out of it, and if y'all don't like how I'm building my truck or think what I want to do or my ideas are stupid and a waste of time then don't answer my questions and leave them for someone who will
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I got it from a guy that was making them localy but I dont think he is doing it anymore. The flywheel I got from SRD Aluminum Flywheel NEW ! [SUZ-TNT-6108] - $349.00 : Zen Cart!, The Art of E-commerce .
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Thanks for the help man, where did you get the aluminum pulley and fly wheel, also I'm looking to get 130 to 150 horse power out of it, and if y'all don't like how I'm building my truck or think what I want to do or my ideas are stupid and a waste of time then don't answer my questions and leave them for someone who will
Just curious as to how much cash you are willing to put into your project.
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as much as it takes to make it how i want it or until i feel i ave enought put into it,

is there a way you can see if the guy is still makeing the aluminum pullys, and holly shit thats alot for a fly wheel
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