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Old 08-17-2011, 04:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Ok Bog, I ordered a new solenoid, I think this is the best way to go and the least expensive at this point and there is no way to test the solenoid if it is stuck until it is removed. When I remove the old solenoid and if both copper tubes are hooked to it should I be able to blow through it? If it is not energized in my mind you should not be able to blow through it and if you can it is stuck open.....right?

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Old 08-18-2011, 08:19 AM   #32 (permalink)
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the test for the solenoid is on my TCC page.?
it is just and electric valve.
closed with no power
open with power applied
do you have the old SOL valve? and its lines.?
just block the line leaving solenoid. in some way.
if copper lines
if you have the spares
cut them off , then crush them both the fold them over. (both tubes are now blocked, test)
put them in tranny , proper with no leaks.
if TCC messes up NOW. it's the LOCK bad. (prime suspect is a new fluid clutch)

drawing 2

TCC failure

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Old 08-20-2011, 10:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well Bog it looks like you may be right, I proved today that it is not the solenoid in the tranny. With the relay pulled that sends voltage to the solenoid the TCC quit locking up and I drove it for at least 15 mile with no problems. I stop for gas and the lockup problem returned. It unlocked its self again down the road and was fine until I stop for awhile again. It returned again when I restarted the engine, so as the relay was removed I can't see how the solenoid is openning and closing so the tranny must be on its way to the ever after.

The only other thing is the tranny was over filled, I removed a quart and it still had to much....I don't figure this would have anything to do with it though.
So I'm looking for a good tranny(yea right) or I may give up on Tracker...just can't see dumping almost $2000.00 in it even though it maybe the best tracker body wise I havever seen.

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Well Bog it looks like you may be right, I proved today that it is not the solenoid in the tranny. With the relay pulled that sends voltage to the solenoid the TCC quit locking up and I drove it for at least 15 mile with no problems.
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TCC relay is STILL OUT you forgot to say.
I stop for gas and the lockup problem returned. TCC REMOVED?
The Tranny is for sure locking with no TCC relay ,say that clear.
IT IS.


It unlocked its self again down the road and was fine until I stop for awhile again. It returned again when I restarted the engine, so as the relay was removed I can't see how the solenoid is openning and closing so the tranny must be on its way to the ever after.
If the LOCK ACTIVATES. and the Internal solenoid is closed.
and is not leaking.
then that is LOCK failure (deep )
this is the first ever lock failure report here.
sorry for your bad luck, !!!

THIS IS WAY bad, over filling causes foaming, and foaming cause .
LUBRICATION failure. and perm. damage.


you been to JIFFY BOOBS?
The only other thing is the tranny was over filled, I removed a quart and it still had to much....I don't figure this would have anything to do with it though.
FOAMING ! OIL is not OIL if it is 50%AIR.
not at all . way way bad.



So I'm looking for a good tranny(yea right) or I may give up on Tracker...just can't see dumping almost $2000.00 in it even though it maybe the best tracker body wise I havever seen.

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most dead kicks are with dead slush pumps.
the pumps cost big time.
gee try correcting the OVERFILL and see if it gets better.
amazing post.
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most dead kicks are with dead slush pumps.
the pumps cost big time.
gee try correcting the OVERFILL and see if it gets better.
amazing post.
I took the Tracker to a respected tranny shop and they believe it is the pump. In a previous post I mention that the tranny had a whine when you put it in drive. The tranny guy listened to this and with what I told him about how the transmission was behaving he guranteed me that the pump was the problem Now I am looking at a $1900.00 bill to repair it and the answer is I am not going to put this kind of money into it

Over the years I have been lucky when purchasing used cars, well it has finally caught up with me. The bad thing is when I bought it my wife said if we have to put and major money in it I had better develop a taste for metal and plastic because I will be eating this thing.

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find a used one at a wrecker and try it.
check on craig list
or a WTB on craigs. Geo tracker 3speed tanny
96 xfr case new spine count.
but not input.
so any 3sp should work , your is 4wd right?

spline rules are on my swap page.
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I thought I would follow up on what happened with the auto tranny. I received the new TCC solenoid and installed it, well the torque converter quit locking up and everything seemed fine. I hit the interstate to see if at 46 mph it would lock up and low and behold it behaved exactly like it should. Punch the brake several times to confirm it was unlocking and it did.

Back to two lane roads and everything was fine no more locking up at any speed, so back to the interstate and home with a big smile on me face that didn't last long. Guess what? now it won't lockup at all

All this has to be related to the TCC lockup solenoid, what I don't understand is another bad new solenoid. I am getting tired of climbing under this thing Oh well at least you can drive it, this is way better than locking up at any speed which would be the equivalent of not having drive. I will order another new solenoid but I bet I wait until spring to replace it, this should give enough time for the tranny fluid smell to get off me.

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slush pumps are fun.
me ?, i just shift to 5th , relax left for and it's locked, no ECU brain to help or hinder.
heheheeheh
you most have got one of those crap solenoids, every one complains about. C^4?

just check to see 12vdc hits the solenoid pin.
if not , bad TCC realy again.
sorry for 2nd fail
but now it drivers.
never seen a solenoid stick open, that is ugly SH|T , no?

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