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Old 11-20-2010, 08:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any tricks as to changing the Rear Main Seal on a 1.6L 4x4 engine? It seems like its going to take awhile to change, but just wanted to know if anyone had learning on this process.

Is it a common occurance for these to go out or is it just my luck that I'm going to need to replace mine?

Engine has 132,000 miles.
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mine needed replaced at about 110K and replacing did the trick and stopped the leak. Fortunately I found a young guy close by that was a Tracker / Kick enthusiast and changed mine for $100 bucks in my driveway. ( nice price and a very nice guy ) In any event, I watched and helped a bit.. It took him all day to do it ( about 8 hours ) After watching him, I realized I could have done it.. This idea of removing the transmission from the car is not necessary.. The trick I learned from this guy was the use of a Rachet Strap around the transmission and up through either the emergency break hole or shifter hole and around a 2" x 4" piece of wood to hold or suspend the transmission in place.. That is the trick you need to know... Also remove propeller shaft from the rear diff and once the tranny is unbolted and suspended it will need to be pushed or swung back with another rachet strap.. Just a 6" pull back, so you can get at the rear main seal.. It can be done by the driveway mecahnic - it may just take you a few days.. Work slowly. I will try to find his email and email it to you. He is one hell of a nice guy ( Southern Boy ) and he will give you the few other tips.. I will need your email

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Old 11-20-2010, 11:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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WHAT TRANSMISSION ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????


i get Samananta Stevens to just blink it away.

the real question (matrix like movie)
is why are you changing it, or better what would you do if you didnt change it.
vacation in Fiji? LOL


a1: pull motor
a2: normal pull tranny.
a3: saddle pull tranny

there is no ebrake hole only a tranny shift hole (the ebrake is a box bellow)
im sure you ment that..sorry.

did scoutters have 4wd or 2wd? xfr case
$100 for rear seal pull got videos? LOL

ive donet the saddle tick on may cars not kick, and many MGs and Triumphs.
they Brit cars, have huge cover in body that removes.... nice idea Japs never copied.
i love tricks and think of them constantly. cheating the book.

( have thought of this many times on kick but can convince self)

you must slide the tranny back the distance of the PP and the pilot shaft on tranny.
gear shift off , and extension housing on 5sp needs to be able to go to the
rear, so how are you keeping it from hitting ebrake box.?

just a 6inch pull back, ok.
that JUST , is the key.
------------------------------------------i sure you checked but............................................... ......
are you sure the oil is engine oil.?
are you sure the rear disty house dont like, like all do ?
are you sure rear VC dont leak.?

once consoles out. shifter off
front and rear prop shafts out , tranny xfr case drains due to prop drop.
my question is , all that is left is.
the strap trick and dropping the tranny.
so i guess all it saves is not removing the transmission crossmember
a 5 min step.

renting a tranny jack works too.

sometimes pulling engine is easier.
depends on how you like working on your back muscling tranny or using cherry picker standing up.
a big factor , imho.

cheers.


96 ( car upside down, hehehe)

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you can see that cross pipe , is the clincher,
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I have an oil leak coming from the rear of the engine. One day, I cleaned all areas at the top and bottom of the motor to diagnose where the leak was coming from. After driving it around for awhile after cleaning, I checked under the truck and found the engine oil coming from where the tranny meets the engine. Can't exactly see where the leak is coming for sure, but pretty good idea that it's coming from there.

What I did in the meantime was purchased a conversion kit from AutoZone to replace anything that may be leaking. Search: CS9683-1 | Conversion Gasket Set | AutoZone.com

Before taking it down, just wanted to see who had what trick.
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Mine has been leaking for quite a while, but not a tremendous amount. The question is how much oil do you have to replace between oil changes. I do my oil change every 3000 miles, and maybe have to put 1/2 quart in, just prior to the time the oil change is due. I also only run mineral oil in the car, rather than synthetic (synthetic will run cleaner, and will cause existing leaks to be worse). If you can hold out until you need a clutch replacement, it is far easier, as you are almost there when you are replacing the clutch.
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It seems to be a 1/2 quart per 1,000 miles. It's not leaking a tremendous amount, but it bothers me and is making my driveway look not sooo pretty.

The clutch was replaced not too long ago. Looks like I'll need to take down everything for the seal replacement. Other than this small issue and the EGR valve, the engine is strong.
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let me see , if you read every post, here, on rear seal.
we get.

how many seals changed for no good reason.
lots.
way cheaper and easier is to .
clean the motor.
1: put in new distrib, 0 rings.
2: then new VC gasket. SORRY VALVE COVER GASKET>
then drive , if leak gone, gee saved 20hrs labor .
if not your out 1hr labor and $20 parts.

never seen a disty on any of these yet that didnt leak.
not one, unless i put in my vitons.
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clean it find it.
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there are other tricks. OK i heard you say Clutch 5sp, got you.
useing dye marker in tranny or engine to tell which.


if 5sp ,) the tranny might have stink to high heaven illegal GL5 in it so if the oil on deck stinks like hypoid gear oil it is.
if how ever you have Group IV (syn) GL4 in 5sp and it is clear as water ,like mine. IT smells like water and sugar , a sweet smell.
then that is on the deck.

if the oil looks brown to black and stinks exactly like the end of a motor dip stick than
by gosh its motor lube
now we are at motor leaks
like me and so many others....before we then .

clean the back of the motor and top of tranny bell so clean i can eat off it, at
a car wash before which i dose it with engine bright, (motor cleaner)

then i drive home.
i get home
i take large flashlight , is back of bell clean or is it a river of oil.???

now for $2 cleaner and $5 car wash , i know who or what is bad.
no 20hrs labor. some can do it in 8r if pro. the seal.
$800 of money spent should be sent for sure on leaking seal. not other.
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