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Old 09-24-2010, 08:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay, Here's the deal. Bought an '89 Tracker with manual steering. Bought a "converson kit" (ie: used parts from a Track/Kick that had pwr.strg.) from a guy off of the internet. The guy didn't tell me initially what year Tracker it was from. Installed it and it seemed to work okay when my RPM's are up above 1500 but below it seemed like manual steering. Emailed the guy to see what year the parts were from (so I could get a rebuilt pump or a seal kit). While waiting (it took awhile) for him to get back to me, I went ahead and ordered a seal kit for a '92 from Rock Auto. When I went to install it some of the seals were the wrong size. Tried to install them and it leaked, (duh). Ordered a rebuilt pump for a '92 from local parts house. While waiting for that to get here guy who sold me the "kit" emails me and says that the parts were from a '96.( note: I found out that the pumps were the same from '89 to '95 but changed in '96) Today the pump comes in and I take the old pump in to the parts house with me to compare. They looked the same and I took them home and started to swap over all of the necessary parts and found that the pressure regulator that threads into the pump housing is smaller on the old (96 style) pump than on the rebuilt (92style) pump. I called the parts house and asked them to order the '96 style. Come to find out it's like $150 more than the '92 style ( although from the outside they look identical). First, what's the difference (besides the press. reg.) and second is the newer '96 style somehow better ( and worth the extra $) than the older style? Sorry for the drawn out novella. Thanks, Charles
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think '96 is when they went to rack and pinion. Don't know if that helps...
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Thanks. That's interesting because now that raises the question "Is the gallons per minute (GPM) different on the older pumps since the earlier models used the power-assisted gearbox setup?" Does anyone here know the answer to that?
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No rack & pinion till '99. I can't say what the difference in pumps is specifically, but I do know there are different mounting brackets '96 & after. It likely is a flow (GPM) or pressure issue you are dealing with, but... if the 'kit' seller sold you parts from all the same vehicle, then it stands to reason they should match & work together fine. What all parts did the kit include? It should have the gearbox, pump, reservoir & all hoses (hi & lo pressure) & probably a different steering shaft. (PS shaft is shorter). If the part fit, belt aligns with pulley properly, & they match each other then I'd have to say the pump was sent DOA or maybe MOA (marginal on arrival )... Or it's possible the box is also marginal & near needing a rebuild. If it was me, having just bought a kit, I would resolve the issue with the original seller & not spend money or time trying to make what you already paid for right after the fact. IMHO
If that's not possible, there may be a way to modify the current pump for higher flow & or pressure... it's been written up on some forums to increase PS assist for large (REALLY large) tires. If you can't resolve it otherwise, I can try & find the post with the how-to in it.

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Thanks. The kit did include the pump, mounting bracket, all hoses, resevoir (with mounting bracket), gearbox, and steering shaft. I got to thinking after I posted that last post and realized that since the "kit' was off of a '96 and the seller told me that he pulled it all off of the the same vehicle then it couldn't've had a steering rack. As far as dealing with the seller goes I only paid him $150 for the kit so I figure I was taking my chances with used parts anyway. I went ahead and ordered a rebuilt pump today that should be here Friday. I do have one question though, I tried to press the pulley off of the old pump and all I managed to do was bend it up. It wouldn't budge evn with a shop press. Is the pulley and the shaft supposed to stay together? I thought that the pulley would be pressed on with a woodruff key like the older ones. Will the rebuilt one have a pulley with it for the '96? That's what I'm hoping for. thanks again, Charles
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Okay, so here's the latest, I broke down and bought a rebuilt pump for a '96 from O'Reilly's online and I got it installed today. But you know what? It acts just like the original one did. It still acts like I have manual steering at low rpm's. I guess the only thing that could be wrong now (outside of a bad pump from O'Reillys) is a bad gearbox or this is just as good as it gets on these Trackers/ Sidekicks power steering setup. Since this is the first and only Track/Kick I've ever driven I don't have anything to compare it to. As far as the wire for the pumps electrical connector goes, I looked and looked and I can't find it anywhere on the left side inner fender area. I'm thinking it's not there due to the fact that '89's didn't offer power steering. Well since I'm NOT buying a new gearbox I guess this is as good as this conversion is going to get. Thanks.
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