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Old 09-08-2010, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 93 Tracker, its going to be trail only. We are going to start with welding the diffs. The reason for this is its a budget build only. As of right now I have about $200 total into it and want to keep it as low as possible. I already understand the issues I will be facing welding the Diffs, what I want to know is how to do it, and if anyone has any pictures of if being done and could talk me threw it a bit.
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I know someone has done this please if you can help me out I would appreciate it.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome to the Forum.

Some folk do not have the capacity to use the Google search function and expect someone else to do the leg work.

I know you are not one of those lazy SOB's so I am suggesting you read the information in this link. How to Weld a Rear Differential | eHow.com

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By far I am not that guy, kind of figured the back out, but there is no diff cover so I was not 100% sure how to go about it, but then again guess I shouldn't ask for help on a forum, no one is here to help everyone wants someone else to do all the looking thats fine Ill go some where else. Thanks for all the helpful insight but. I guess when you think you know everything that you dont need to share it with anyone. Thanks so much for showing me all that great 4x4 spirit I hear so much about. WOW
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Oh and thank you for referring to me as a son of a bitch. Honestly was just trying to get some direction not to have someone to come weld it and hold my hand. seeing as after this post I am sure I will be band from the site. You guys have by far treated me with the most disrespect. I have done my research but couldn't find the answers I needed. Screw it though Ill figure it out thanks so much again. I hope one day I don't treat anyone to ask me for advise the same way.
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Oh and thank you for referring to me as a son of a bitch. Honestly was just trying to get some direction not to have someone to come weld it and hold my hand. seeing as after this post I am sure I will be band from the site. You guys have by far treated me with the most disrespect. I have done my research but couldn't find the answers I needed. Screw it though Ill figure it out thanks so much again. I hope one day I don't treat anyone to ask me for advise the same way.
Welding the diffs is not much trouble, but along come other weak sports, like the ring and pinion teeth, they like to snap under tension, and the axle shafts, they do too..


But welding the diff itself really isnt that much trouble, just make sure all oil is cleaned off perfectly before making the weld, put the machine on the highest amperage you can handle(there is no such thing as welding a differential too hot)

Just make absolutely sure that no weld goes into splines or grooves, what I like to do when welding differentials is not only welding the spider gears together, but also welding them stuck to the differential casing itself, this ofcourse ruins the casing for later use, but these are not expensive to find at a wreckers site anyway, and you get a weld that never breaks, something else will break first.

I hope there was no disrespect from my end, at least not intentional.


Just don´t weld it like this guy did...

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I would recommend NOT welding the front. you will have a really hard time turning the vehicle it's more important that front wheels can turn at different speeds than rear wheels. I think welding the rear should be enough for any wheeling near-stock trackicks attempt. Mine is a super budget friendly wheeler with both diffs open, and it's a blast. Anyway do the rear first and see how much you like it.
Don't give up on this forum, but check out zukiworld too, they have some pretty good info too.
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I would recommend NOT welding the front. you will have a really hard time turning the vehicle it's more important that front wheels can turn at different speeds than rear wheels. I think welding the rear should be enough for any wheeling near-stock trackicks attempt.
Come on - the guy understood the issues he was going to be facing.

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I have a 93 Tracker, its going to be trail only. We are going to start with welding the diffs. The reason for this is its a budget build only. As of right now I have about $200 total into it and want to keep it as low as possible. I already understand the issues I will be facing welding the Diffs, what I want to know is how to do it, and if anyone has any pictures of if being done and could talk me threw it a bit.
I took him at his word - should I be the one to tell him that in mud he will have no steering control? He'll fight the steering to full lock (but he's got power steering - right?) and the vehicle will continue to travel in a straight line. It will "push" or understeer, and he's going to break axles and sooner or later (sooner rather than later) the third member, like if it was made of glass.

He already understands those issues.

Now - I know that somewhere out there on the internet, is a thread which shows all four differential gears being removed and alternate groups of teeth filled with welding bead and the differential reassembled with no welding to the hemisphere - I know this because I have seen it - but I am just too lazy to go search for it, so that I can post a link to it.

Of course if I wanted to use it as an example of how to my weld my diff (which I have no intention of doing - because I understand those issues), I might have more motivation to search
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several images, welded differential - Google Search
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