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Old 04-20-2010, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Speedometer, cable and transfer case problem (yay.)

Alright I found some infos here about the problem. I'm not alone

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-...s-trouble.html

And mine also is starting to be a money pit... but this is one of its last problems I need to solve.

So, It first started as a light grinding noise in the cluster a year ago. Then, winter came and the noise was SO LOUD!! And the speedometer was to the max and I bet it would have done three turns if it could. I then removed the cluster and noticed the cable alone would do a bit of noise so I guessed the problem was the cable.

Now the noise is gone (so is winter). It's gone because the speedometer doesn't move anymore. I decided today to check the cable and, well, even when I'm moving, the cable won't turn. So I checked if the cable was okay and the cable is not broken.

The problem I guess is inside the transfer case because with the cable removed from the transfer case, I can turn the little clip that drives the cable, with my pinky!!!!

I know there are people having problems with the cable and the cluster, and now with the transfer case so what i'm going to do is replace all the darn parts and finally get over it.

I can deal with the cable and the cluster but I don't know about the transfer case part. I saw a bolt near where the speedo cable connects. Are there any replaceable parts in there or will I have to (sigh, BIG SIGH) buy another transfer case?
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The cable connects to the speedometer driven gear at the transfer case, and this can be replaced if it is worn or teeth or chipped, etc. You will have to remove the oil seal from the gear case and this can't be re-used. You may need a specialty tool in order to install the new oil seal in the gear case.
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Ah! Thanks a lot for the good news

Do you have some procedures to do this?
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I have not done this myself, but my FSM makes this sound pretty straight forward. The speedometer cable goes into a round gear casing at the transfer case, which is connected to the speedometer driven gear with a spring pin. You remove the speedometer cable from the transfer case (assuming 4wd), remove the gear case bolt and gear case. The oil seal in the gear case should be removed and discarded. The remove the spring pin and the speedo driven gear. The driven gear has a shaft and gear, so shaft should be checked to make sure its not bent, gear checked for broken teeth. The only hitch in the whole thing is the reinstallation. When you put back the new oil seal in the gear case, they recommend using a valve guide remover in order to do so. They also recommend applying grease to the lip portion of the new oil seal. When installing the gear case bolt it should be torqued to 90 lb./in.
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You're right it sounds quite straight forward... I might try to change it myself

Now I'll have to get a hand on the parts. I found one (poorly built) website selling speedometer driven gears for many models but what I need is out of stock. Rockauto.com and eBay don't have them, and I'm SURE NAPA doesn't either. I'll have to ask my local GM dealer but this path is usually pricey.

Do you know some place that would have the parts and ship them to canada?
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easy with ,explainations.

if you can get the speedo head ot that was the only hard part.
buy a new cable.
it simply un screws from the tranny

the 97 routes diff than 96, that the 97 , it passes thru the left side fire wall , no right.
so order carefully ( suzuki actally sell them)
so does rock auto , canada shipping , i am clueless, contact the suppilers directly.

see top left corner, your cable screws in , right there. easy as pie to do.

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Oh my GOD Amazon sells car parts?!?!? Geez!

Thanks for the link! It's actually half the price of rockauto's!

I phoned my local GM dealer and they asked for a bunch of informations like the color of the gears and number of teeth, presence of adaptor... I'll have to remove all this to get a price.

Again, thanks for the link, but I need to find the gears and seal
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your gm deal is not dead, wow , take a photo.

if you car is stock i can show you the correct suz pn. for the cable or any parts

with all things ,guessing is not necessary.

remove the cable from end of xfr case, if the plastic gear is good then you dont need that or any of the above parts. ( them GM are asking)

you only need , year, model, door count, 4wd, engine and tranny type.
the car came with a gear to match your tranny. there is no guessing unless you run wrong size tires.

the cable is just a cable with a jacket.
and a special tip on each end, ( mines broken at the xfr case side) ( I bought a kick with 100 problems for zip)
i pulled the cable off there and the tip brass fell to the floor.
busted.
so it is obvious the tip is broke and i need a new cable, nothing more.

if the cable is frayed in side, it binds. that is why my tip snapped. 134k miles , snap.
cause and effect.

typical, lube dries out, the speedo bounches, driver ignores it, drives more
cable snaps.
SSDD. (same suff , different day; as we say)

so one can do lots of things.

one is to spin cable with drill motor (slow) at tranny to see if speedo works.

btw speedo dead , caused VSS to go dead and ECU to throw DTC for same
and car drives crappy and bad MPG.
vSS is an important sensor for calculating engine load.

The Xfr case has a 10mm bolt that when unclamped on can view the gear.

i have SUZ pn and Geo pn. of you need any part.
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Well there was one dealer 20 miles from here and it's now closed but there's another one still open 30 miles from here. Don't know about your area but here, there is at least one in almost every city :P

The cable seems fine but I'll change it anyway.
The speedo gear is definately broken; as I said with cable removed from xfer case, I can turn it with my pinky.

I'll try to get a hand on a speedometer as well. Mine was making some real bad noise before the whole thing broke. Do I have to get a whole cluster or just the meter?

And what do you mean "VSS goes dead"? You mean dead like in "broken and has to be replaced"?

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