Suzuki Forum Suzuki Forums

» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Suzuki Models > Suzuki Sidekick, Escudo, Vitara & Geo Tracker Forum (1989-1998)
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

Suzuki-Forums.com is the premier Suzuki Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-30-2009, 09:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Gallery: 0
98TrackerMan is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Help-98 ChevyTracker-CEL on & No OBDII DTC's

Hi All again – After following what Jerry suggested – way beck in April 4th ‘09- Ok it’s a 1998 Tracker 4 Cyl. 1.6L 4dr 4wd- close to 98K plus miles- bought it New-never had a problem with it-only in April ’09- I had a prob. With car going into low rpm- Jerry suggested to clean up the ISC it is sticking and definitely time for new timing belt . Did all that and I even tested ISC with a 9v battery like his video-to see it move & click.- Yesterday, Oct 29th- stopped at the deli-not far from home-on return the CEL comes on- driving I could feel when I stepped on gas pedal it was not responding quickly- if I did it gradually Tracker ran ok-but still had no “UMF.”-On straightaway’s was “eh” ok –downhill ok – uphill lack of power- driving on straightaway- the CEL blinked 3 times then went back to stay steady- I smelled what could have been that Catalytic smell-around the blinking period , but it also could have been other traffic- I think it was mine though. When I got home-drove into the driveway backyard and CEL was still steady –no more blinking- - I stuck my nose by the tail pipe while car was running and smelled nothing unusual - While idling in D or P it was smooth running but it seemed every 2minutes it would ”miss or hiccup” and go back smooth. RPMs remained normal- I had purchased back in April at Harbor Freight–the CEN-TECH OBDII – so I hooked it according to the directions- No DTC’s appeared. – I did it 2 more times at separate occasions to make sure-still No DTC’s - could I need to get a more advanced type OBDII for DTC's Need some suggestions please where to start- gotta get her back running before the cold weather!
98TrackerMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 10-30-2009, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
Full Member
 
keithert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 115
Gallery: 0
keithert is on a distinguished road
Default

Could it be a clogged catalytic converter? That would lead to a loss of power.
__________________
1992 Tracker - 1.6 8v engine with automatic trans
2002 Mitsu Montero Sport

RIP
1990 Tracker - 1998 Wrangler SE
keithert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 01:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
Expert
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Killeen, TX
Posts: 555
Gallery: 1
CodyJ is on a distinguished road
Default

Is your check engine light on -- otherwise most cheap OBDII devices won't pick it up unless the light is actually on.

Next - MAF could be failing. (guessing)

As previous poster stated, but along with mine -- check engine light would more than likely be on for this.
__________________
93' 2dr Geo Tracker 4x4 5speed, 8v 1.6L, auto, 155k
95' 2dr Geo Tracker 4x2 3-speed auto, 8v 1.6L, 122k (pic below)

Place this in your comment if you want help: YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE, TRANS, MILEAGE, AUTO/MANUAL HUB(if 4x4)
CodyJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 02:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
Bex
Expert
 
Bex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ireland
Posts: 702
Gallery: 0
Bex is on a distinguished road
Default

Sounds like you are in limp home mode. But don't understand why, with CEL light on, you are not getting codes. It would appear that maybe tester is no good. You say you purchased it in April, but have you ever used it? Maybe faulty....Is there a dealership near you that would use their OBD2 tester to see if they can get codes for you? Then you could post the codes here, and find your answers.
__________________
'91 Tracker 8V, 1.6L, 5 sp, 4wd, 2dr, conv, Canadian

Last edited by Bex : 10-30-2009 at 02:38 PM.
Bex is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 02:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Gallery: 0
98TrackerMan is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 98TrackerMan View Post
Hi All again – After following what Jerry suggested – way beck in April 4th ‘09- Ok it’s a 1998 Tracker 4 Cyl. 1.6L 4dr 4wd- close to 98K plus miles- bought it New-never had a problem with it-only in April ’09- I had a prob. With car going into low rpm- Jerry suggested to clean up the ISC it is sticking and definitely time for new timing belt . Did all that and I even tested ISC with a 9v battery like his video-to see it move & click.- Yesterday, Oct 29th- stopped at the deli-not far from home-on return the CEL comes on- driving I could feel when I stepped on gas pedal it was not responding quickly- if I did it gradually Tracker ran ok-but still had no “UMF.”-On straightaway’s was “eh” ok –downhill ok – uphill lack of power- driving on straightaway- the CEL blinked 3 times then went back to stay steady- I smelled what could have been that Catalytic smell-around the blinking period , but it also could have been other traffic- I think it was mine though. When I got home-drove into the driveway backyard and CEL was still steady –no more blinking- - I stuck my nose by the tail pipe while car was running and smelled nothing unusual - While idling in D or P it was smooth running but it seemed every 2minutes it would ”miss or hiccup” and go back smooth. RPMs remained normal- I had purchased back in April at Harbor Freight–the CEN-TECH OBDII – so I hooked it according to the directions- No DTC’s appeared. – I did it 2 more times at separate occasions to make sure-still No DTC’s - could I need to get a more advanced type OBDII for DTC's Need some suggestions please where to start- gotta get her back running before the cold weather!
Hi - Yes the CEL is on. Yes I used tester a few months ago on my Lumina- it gave me a reading.(DTC for a O2 sensor-.)....but nothing says it couldn't have gone bad- or became faulty,( eventhough I have taken care & iti s in a protective hard case)- Yep I might have to look see for a dealer no too far away- ya know I just hate driving it- in case to incur any other problems. Thx for the input.--> 98TM
98TrackerMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
Bex
Expert
 
Bex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ireland
Posts: 702
Gallery: 0
Bex is on a distinguished road
Default

I think you can drive in limp home mode for quite a while...frustrating, but would take you to dealer (or mechanic with OBD2). Just try not to find one who is on the top of a hill or anything. Might be tough getting there. But can't understand why CEL light is on, unless there is an ECU issue and codes. You may want to try to reset the CEL by taking dome fuse out for a minute, then replace and start car, see if CEL is still on. If so, there are definitely codes in there.
__________________
'91 Tracker 8V, 1.6L, 5 sp, 4wd, 2dr, conv, Canadian
Bex is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 07:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
Expert
 
deeznutts77's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: granby, ny redneck part of woods.
Posts: 609
Gallery: 4
deeznutts77 is on a distinguished road
Default

its a 98 so no limp mode its obd1 that limp. autozone or advanced auto? they read and clear codes. also remove + bat terminal and put it on - 4 10 sec. resets ecu and c if light comes back on. also blocked cat makes weird blowing noise, like blowing into paper twl roll with hand over end yes that noise. so have some one rev it up while u listen.
__________________

96 jx 5 speed 1.6 16v "cold" air and try y header, underdrive crank, kawasaki zx6 muzzy muffler, gm alt kit, cam and .020 off head next.
96 2dr geo tracker sport all stock









To a life consumed by slow decay
deeznutts77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 06:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
Bex
Expert
 
Bex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ireland
Posts: 702
Gallery: 0
Bex is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deeznutts77 View Post
its a 98 so no limp mode its obd1 that limp.
Ah, learning all the time....didn't know that. Thanks!
__________________
'91 Tracker 8V, 1.6L, 5 sp, 4wd, 2dr, conv, Canadian
Bex is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 11:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Gallery: 0
98TrackerMan is on a distinguished road
Default Help-98 ChevyTracker-CEL on & No OBDII DTC's

OK I'll be trying that reset of ECU with the +terminal- to ses what happens- if the converter was blocked- then nothing would come out of the exhaust , right or wrong? The exhaust is working- I can see the vapor and there is no converter smell- exhaust smell is just as before any problems -that steam air-gota put it on hold til tomorrow- visiting my sister & kids in PA today Haloween-SAT- ( she's a 911 WTC widow)-I welcome any other ideas- THX --> 98TM
98TrackerMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 01:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior
 
aquanaut20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FraserValley, BC, Canada
Posts: 345
Gallery: 0
aquanaut20 is on a distinguished road
Default

Does your OBDII scanner power up when you plug it into the connector?

On my, 99 the ignition must be in the "RUN" position for the scanner to initialize.

If you dont get power up, maybe you have a fuse missing/blown, do not have a schematic but someone on the forum might be able to check.
__________________
92 Ford Explorer, 450k
97 Ford Explorer, 360k
99 Tracker, 4dr, 4x4, 2L DOHC, auto 165k
aquanaut20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Suzuki Forums: Suzuki Forum Site > Suzuki Models > Suzuki Sidekick, Escudo, Vitara & Geo Tracker Forum (1989-1998)



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0