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Old 09-29-2009, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My 94' Sidekick 16V auto rev to 1.5K rpm during morning cold start and will smoke alot (white smoke almost covering the whole car) and it takes approx. 5mins before dropping to 800rpm and the smoke stops. Well, most of the time I will just let it run for 1 - 2 mins and will just drive off and the engine will will warmed up after driving for a block. Nothing really failing right now and no smoke coming from my exhaust during drive or idling at traffics lights or any part of the day...... just the 1st start in the morning and is just embarassing when my neighbour is beside me LOL !!!!

Just checking any clue of what is wrong and is it costly to fix it?
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A couple of ideas,valve seals,but that little bit should clear up in seconds.Head gasket,but that also should clear up right away.How's it running?d'y'have a bad miss?D'y'have to add a lot of oil or antifreez?Is it hard to start?
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Always start on the 1st crank and runs smoothly. The only bad is it eats engine oil and approx. top up 1 litre every 2000km. That means I will have to top up 1 litre of oil during mid of oil change interval.
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What is the color of the smoke?

If is Blueish is oil, White is Steam from condensation (water Condensation, cracked hear, blown gasket will be blowing white smoke all the time), Black is for excess Fuel.

If smokes a bit and quits is not much problem. On an older engine as parts wears out it will consume more than normal oil. Also, oil can be leaked out, adding to the "oil consumption" due to old and worn out seals that expand and leaks due to heat and pressure.

So, worn valve guides and leaky gasket can use more than a Litre per 2,000 Km.

Pull the Spark Plugs and see what is the condition of them. They do tell a good story by the way they look.
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Mine has no leaks so far as I don't see any at my parking lot.... probably worn engine but not blowing a line of white smoke during drive...

I guess I will ave to pull the spark plugs during weekend to see if they are burning fine.
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Sorry to butt in, but "relicduke" is kind of wasting your time... If the head gasket was a problem then the "drive or idling at traffics lights or any part of the day" wouldn't have happened -instead you would have overheated the engine in less than 20 minutes of city driving, even less on the highway. "Steam" from the exhaust is absolutely normal and every engine that consumes fuel to be burnt (fuel+oxygen=energy+carbon dioxide+water ... and some other gases, NO, NO2, CO, etc.), but the visible water vapor from the exhaust pipe isn't visible for long AND it does NOT linger in the air about your vehicle as you described.
"relicduke" does have some good input, but he should have typed it in his first response to you; the only "smoke" coming from your vehicle is a result of burning oil. Yep, engine oil can be a "fuel", but doesn't burn well as a fuel in ~your~ engine. With all the smoke about your running car, I'll bet you can hardly approach it to drive as the smell is noxious, ie yes, the burning oil. Now you can drive off and not see smoke after a period of time, and sometimes it only happens in the morning... and sometimes maybe it doesn't smoke in the morning, but it's still operable.
Comment about worn parts is good, but rather slow and not precise. Worn valve guides are a great way to burn morning oil, as the small amount of oil that trickled pass the valve stem went into the combustion chamber. Why morning(?), when metal gets hot it expands and the small space between parts gets smaller. Conversely, went metal cools, it contracts and the spaces get larger. The spaces are always small, but oil molecules are much smaller. So, in the morning, the valve guides/stems, pistons/rings, ie all engine metal-to-metal parts are rather sloppy fitting. After the engine parts have warmed up they are tighter fitting. When you run a cold engine the “sloppy” fit between metal parts allows oil to leak past them and ultimately burned for your olfactory pleasure (and neighbor’s amusement). All conventional vehicle engines have that cold sloppy fit, but your engine has a greater sloppy fit (due to wear) than it should… look, it’s normal for something to wear out as it’s used, right??
Suffice to say, your engine is only ~showing~ signs of part wear, specifically, those parts associated with air intake and combustion. I recommend using an engine oil viscosity enhancer (makes the oil just a little thicker and stickier) for high mileage engines, or over worked engines, like yours. Lucus, Shell, Valvoline, Caster all make additives or complete oils for higher mileage engines. I would not use a synthetic oil because they are expensive to just burn (but try one if you'd like to experiment, like Mobile 1, or AMSOIL). Bottom line is, either drive it the way you have, drive it the way you have and add an additive or complete oil for the high mileage condition, or spend the money to rebuild/replace the engine or worn parts... spending the money you could have spent on a different car.
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Hey thanks guys taking time to post replies and I will definitely go for the "Additives" method and save the Cash for another car. Honestly, I LOVE the Sidekick though and I didn't spend much on it so if I can drive it for a couple of years than that will make my $$$ worth.
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There is no such thing as a magic potion for an old and wore out engine. One trick is to put a thicker oil and sell it. Is not the honest thing to do but to trade it on a dealer... that is another story

Nothing beats a good overhaul. But you might get by easy by replacing the head for a reconditioned one or just let a machine shop rebuild it. I replaced the heads on several cars with high mileage engines and sure does wonders. Piston Rings on a properly maintained engine last longer than a valve guide by my experiences.
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Default The first smoke in the morning.

I guess there were many things that can cause it to do so. I have been wrenchin' for a while, just shy of 20yrs. Ive seen cracked heads that can do that, possible head gasket. If head had crack on exhaust side of valve train it can almost keep up with coolant pressure. Coolant will become dirty and stink like exhaust. If this is the case an additive can be added to the coolant(I like the alumaseal stuff) to seal the crack.If it small enough and you just drive with ease, it could last a little bit. By all means not the right way to fix but can get ya by. If the "smoke smells sweet" its probably coolant getting in cylinder some way. Ive seen some cases were oil can do this too. But the smell will tell. Like some else said, pull the spark plugs they tell a story as well, I see some one posted a site to "read the plugs" so I wont do it again. I have been into many engines in my time and can say I haven't been into a Suzuki yet. Except for timing belt. Hard to tell without seeing or smellin' lol. If we were closer and when the time comes I'd buyer from ya..I need another one.
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You guys are really great and helpful. My Sidekick is still running OK and I doubt there is anything wrong with the head casket as my antifreeze remains the same ever since I change it 1 year ago. I believe it is just worn as I clock quite abit of mileage on it (100km a day).

Hmm.... come to think about it there wasn't that much smoke during Summer when I was using 20W50 oil but since I changed back to 10W40 2 weeks ago (weather getting colder), it started to smoke more during morning start. I guess I just have to add a bottle of "engine treatment" like those STP stuff and it should improves a little (I hope) LOL !!!
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