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Old 09-02-2009, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok guys just wondering if anyone around here uses a short ram intake for their tracker? I have always had them on my cars, but didnt know if it would be a good idea for the tracker.
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I had one on mine for months but I recently went back to the stock air box. There are lots of advanteges to having the stock set up 1 is thereis a water trap in the fender witch helps if you drive through deep puddles... When I frist put mine on I had no other engine modifacitions done. I did notice A little more pep no change in mpg. After rebuilding and puting a tourqur cam shaft and a magnaflow with 2" pipe. I was reading and learned a lot more about the air system on the my zuk. like the water trap and that the resonator help the car breathe smoothly. When I switched back to the stock set up no change at all this might be because of my engine mods but I not realy sure.. I can't wait to put a clean air filter in the on i put back in is horrorabley dirty.

I would read alot before I threw down some cash. there are lots of recent post about this. good luke with you decition
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The stock intake is designed for what you described. It leads to the outside of the car, therefore works like a Cold Intake would. Just does not looks as fancy. The other thing, the squared filter has more surface area, so stays cleaner. Another is noise dampening from the intake (falls feeling of power gain since you can hear a throaty sound). A wet filter does not works at all, so the air box is designed to keep the water and the dirt particles away from the filter.

Some people thinks, a piece of foam on a tube is better, actually is neglectable.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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and longer tube makes better low end torque.

engine bay is full of dirt ,buts water splashs and trash, why induct there?

can for the life of me ,figure that.

but stealing air from the below cowl vent box, now you have RAM air.

especially over 100mph, and WOT.
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my airbox is shot so i was forced to put a cone filter on and it picks up alot quicker with the cone filter. i had to switch back to the stock air box but only did if for a day because it sucked no pun intended, i had to fix the air filter. the car likes the stock air box the throttle response is better right as you hit the gas but it does'nt pick up as good. i also have a thrush muffler right after the cat with a 2" turn down tip right after the muffler
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best is low flow restriction after market filter in stock air cleaner box then take off
intake to fiter box and route a new pipe to the below windsheld cowl 4 inchs off floor of this tank (clean the drains in the take first @!!!) and now your car is ram air.
$1 fix. and a new filter if necessary. KN makes stock filters that work great until you wash them then they become golf ball filters , only good on golf course. hjehehehehe

ok, this gives 8hp on my miata at 120mph. (works on all cars)

its just the darn cops hidding behind those bill boards. eating donuts.......rats
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Hey Jerry. Many years ago when I was about 22 I had the same idea as you propose for utilizing the ram air from the intake box in front of the windshield on my Fiat 124 Spyder. Trouble was, my engineering was deficient, and did not allow for draining any rain water out the appropriate drain vents, instead of having the water drain into the intake!!!! You can imagine what happened. That very night, we had a gusher of a rainstorm. The next morning when I fired up the Fiat, instead of a nice twin-cam engine sound, I hear "blub, gurgle, blub, gurgle", etc!!! Several oil changes and motor flushes later, it almost ran as well as before my bonehead mistake..
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I had one on my 8v '91 Zuke and other than the noise it made no difference in fuel consumption or performance so after testing it for a few months and monitoring everything with pFuel and the foot-o-meter for performance I went back to a safer stock airbox.
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that's right it will do nothing unless you go real fast.
most do this to impress friends, look dude , me gots cold air.

after all , how long do you drive at WOT. Look at that butterfly plate. its there, its closed most the time (or mostly i should say)

to me most of these kit they sell are , dirty eating devices. all they do is suck in hot dirty air.
why anyone finds that good, is a wonder.


the ram does work on a race track and for many ,all they want is that LOOK.
and the short tube messes up the low end torque.
but the loud induction noise pleases many.

if the drains are working ( clean them)
and you keep your port high and a rain deflector on top it will be ok. but weather conditions vary on the N. American cont.
widely , thus the OEM design is the best for all conditions. (ice, hail, slush, bug storms, dust storms, etc)
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The only thing that I know that can be made home brew is a Resonance Induction Intake.

By Placing the TB as far away from the Plenum as possible, the pulses from the intake, when in resonance can create a "Charger" effect.

But the drawback is, the resonance induction is good at certain RPMs (Mass Flow) and narrows your powerband.

Yamaha kind of did the same with the EXUP system and he Variable Venturi Carbs back in the early 90s. That way the engine powerband was more smooth and predictable.

People think an Intake Snorkel is the same but is not, due to the location of the TB.

This application is hidden in many cars, like the GM V6 engines (2.9L ~3.8L). By splitting the intake on 2 parts, the top left bank feeds the right bank. Also, one legendary engine was the Chrysler Max Wedge that had the same principle on their intake.

I always said. A Piece of foam at the end of the tube does not increase performance, just LOOKS faster and sounds better.

There is no reason to mess with the engine factory setup for the sakes of few FT/TQ and HPs.

The power to $$$ ratio is not there
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