What are the switches on the auto trans?

[jtgh]

see new id section

mo bedder.


Slush pump diagnosis

F5 hit F5 refresh

see 4sp id , tricks (od is best clue, it think)

and photos of parts.

[jtgh]

need 95 opearator guide
here

kickdata | FreeDrive.com | Online Storage and Social Utility

see owners manual

shows how to operate the Shift Unlocker , emergancy button with photos

[dbacon]

JTGH,

Thanks for all the work you put into your responses. Where would this forum be without your input?

Your comments followed by my responses:
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1. are you taking about the shift lock solenoid top side or the OD switch bottom side. if the latter then that is easy it is a magnetic switch. that detects the state of internal transmission parts.
case in point the on my MT , there is one that detects the shift rails parts.
there position. it is far more reliable to use mag det. then a rod and real switch. and the mag switches are expenisve,and last forever. so get one at a wrecking yard,or it will be $$$
the mag switches never go bad, in most cases.
I am convinced that what I need is a transmission speed sensor, Suzuki t 310802 I have seen pictures of it on some sites. I have been unable to get my paws on one though...
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2. how are gears labeled. D1 D2 L ? or D21 ?
P R N D 2 L
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3 (If car is)Suz real, then look on left side of tranny centerline. just above pan gasket
behold a metal tag, on tag is pn, 3L30 is 3 spe. 73L?? see my tranny page,its all written up on ID.
So hard to see anything, I had it jacked up and couldn't see the sides of the trans, the tunnel is so close around it, and there is a crossmenmer and a cat converter in the way. They must have buttered it to get it in there...
I had the floor shift out and the 4WD selector boot out just to attempt to see from the top. I finally cut out a 4" square access panel on the left side, I guess I need another on the backup light switch
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4. yes, im sure now (about it being a trans speed sensor for the TCC) , you are lacking an FSM but actually the tranny map.
I would like a FSM, should I go to the dealer? There is one 20 miles West of me. Will it be outrageously expensive?
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5. the 4 speed has a TCM , top right above steering column.
this unit does all shifting.
I knocked off for the day, but I will look tomorrow
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6. i bet yours is a 4door with left shift 4speed and TCM.
I can verify the 4 doors, but from what I can see of my trans, the picture of the 4 spd that I posted earlier looks like it, but I still haven't found the shift, maybe when I make my right side access door.
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7. (Owners manual) shows how to operate the Shift Unlocker , emergancy button with photos
Yes it does, I will use that if mine fails to unlock, but the locking function seems to be based solely on a mechanical cable that stops the thumb button from releasing the shifter unless the ignition switch is rotated to ON. I don't see anything happen with brake application, but doesn't matter, safety lockouts are for those who enjoy government mandates, I don't even believe in global warming.

To continue my saga of the mistaken switch, I went to 3 local auto parts stores, no luck, tried a specialty import auto parts store, batted out. Monday I call the dealer in Farmington (MI) and brace myself for his price. Meantine, I wound a small bobbin of 32 ga wire and epoxied it onto the permanent magnet. But it didn't seem to satisfy the ECM (or TCM) so many things I don't know, amplitude, polarity, do you have any info about what the signal would look like?

Thanks for helping me.

[jtgh]

your welcome...
are you winding the speed sensor?
the 4 speed has OD, so add that to list ,most 3sp dont, but not sure about latter.
as suk has many ww variances.
that part is zuk only or from the tranny mfg.
we have free fsm on tranny too.
see it

transmission_manual.zip | FreeDrive.com | Online Storage and Social Utility
6mb. large.

SPEED SENSOR
24791-57B00
$114 SW SUZUKI.

there are transmission parts houses, they stock these too.

and

4-speed , "AISIN" AW code # 03-72LE , actual #: A44DE as used in Toyota's, Miata's, and Granda Vitara's.
all these will work too. vast number , and only few listed.


i will look up a tranny parts shop and give you one.

cheers

[jtgh]

Slush pump diagnosis
tranny parts, from tranny parts houses?

http://www.automaticchoice.com/Catalogue/aw_0370.pdf

? ask em.

https://www.wittrans.com/showfilter....13&Section=174

i see it listed with housing. , ask em.

cheers.

[dbacon]

JTGH,

Thanks, I will read the trans info, I did D.L. it earlier. Your drawing of the trans was very helpful, now I know that item 13, below the speed sensor, is not a sensor, but a way of attaching to the TCC solenoid. Lucky I didn't chop that in half. (I have a nice sharp chainsaw too...all gassed up!)

I have seen a couple places with the speed sensor for $42, but I will see if the local dealer will give me a reasonable price. $114 is not within that definition. I did see that US Auto Parts has it and says:
Fits these Vehicles
1999-2000 Chevrolet Prizm
1993-1997 Geo Prizm
1992-1993 Toyota Camry
1993-2002 Toyota Corolla
1996-2000 Toyota RAV4
2001-2001 Toyota Sequoia
2000-2002 Toyota Tundra

Now that you verify it fits other vehicles, I can believe it. It took your blessing to convince me...

Thanks again.

[jtgh]

you are doing good finding after market parts.

nice list of cars that have this tranny.
i grabbed it. thanks !

$40 is very reasonalble.

[dbacon]

JTGH,

This was for a sensor T310802 that came up when I searched for my car:
1995 Suzuki 4WD JLX 4 door, but that needs to be verified.
I also came up with this number:
AC Delco - 213-4071

My trans seems to be a 4 speed, only one for my car according to the great link you wrote of:
Main page, where you can put in car model and find out what trans you have:
https://www.wittrans.com/default.aspx

My trans is A44DE
Link to parts for A44DE on WIT:
https://www.wittrans.com/Parts-Finde...archTerm=A44DE

They didn't list the speed sensor, but I wrote to them, like you advised.
If it is correct, here is a better listing:
This link lists three places for $42, $42, & $55 From:
Replacement Speed Sensor T310802 (T310802) | CarDomain - The place to show off your car pictures and photos

$42
US Auto Parts - Catalogs - Replacement Speed Sensor T310802 - Replacement Speed Sensor

$42
PartsTrain.com - Hard to Find Auto Parts and Truck Parts - T310802

$55
Replacement Speed Sensor T310802
(Replacement - T310802)

Price Range: $41.95 - $54.85 from 3 Sellers

Description: "SPEED SENSOR -- A High Quality, Direct Fit OE Replacement Speed Sensor"

41.95 at US Auto Parts
Fits these Vehicles
Chevrolet Prizm
1999-2000: Base; 4Cyl 1.8L;
1999-2000: LSi; 4Cyl 1.8L;
Geo Prizm w/o ABS
1993-1997: LSi; 4Cyl 1.8L;
Toyota Camry
1992-1992: Base; 6Cyl 2.5L;
1992-1992: DLX; 6Cyl 3.0L;
1992-1992: LE; 6Cyl 2.5L;
1992-1993: LE; 6Cyl 3.0L;
1992-1993: SE; 6Cyl 3.0L;
1992-1993: XLE; 6Cyl 3.0L;
1993-1993: Base; 6Cyl 3.0L;
1993-1993: DX; 6Cyl 3.0L;
Toyota Corolla
1993-1993: All Trac; 4Cyl 1.8L;
1993-1993: Base; 4Cyl 1.8L;
1993-1997: Base; 4Cyl 1.6L;
1993-1997: DX; 4Cyl 1.6L;
1993-1997: DX; 4Cyl 1.8L;
1993-2002: LE; 4Cyl 1.8L;
2002-2002: CE; 4Cyl 1.8L;
2002-2002: S; 4Cyl 1.8L;
Toyota RAV4
1996-2000: Base; 4Cyl 2.0L;
Toyota Sequoia
2001-2001: Limited; 8Cyl 4.7L;
2001-2001: SR5; 8Cyl 4.7L;
2000-2002 Toyota Tundra
2000-2002: Base; 6Cyl 3.4L;
2000-2002: Limited; 8Cyl 4.7L;
2000-2002: SR5; 6Cyl 3.4L;
2000-2002: SR5; 8Cyl 4.7L;

I am going to try again on a home-made sensor, I realized that my little bobbin of windings is not at all what is needed to develop a signal.

Here is a picture of the typical sensor, all that wire is in the base of the "probe", not at the back like I made.

I originally measured 400 to 500 Ohms, which changed slightly and briefly when a metal object was touched to it. My wimpy little coil I wound around a 1/4' length of a McDonald's straw was only 5 Ohms of wire, I didn't realize the wire is in that big fat probe.

[jtgh]

that wire is very fine, mic it.
and get gage of wire that way..


$40 is cheap for any sensor on any car.

price a CMP sometime. ouch.

thanks for cross car parts list !!! cool.

[dbacon]

Yes, I will open the sensor up again and see if I can get to the wire, now that I understand where the coil is. Also I must restore the magnetic circuit, which is a piece of metal from the back of the magnet to the mounting bolt, I'll draw a picture...
The "shunt bar" completes the magnetic circuit. It existed before the band saw came through...

Also, during a recent trip in heavy rain, the "OD OFF" light blinked a few times and the trans seemed to shift down then up, which could have been the TCC dropping out for a few seconds. I wonder if it wasn't this circuit losing signal, perhaps because of a lot of water getting into the plug, ever hear of that?

It operated flawlessly on the rain-free return trip the next day. There is a lot of water must get to this connector area because the mounting plate was almost pure rust, so I electrified it in baking soda to renew it.