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Old 02-28-2009, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone tried one and did it make a difference?

eBay Motors: NEW PERFORMANCE CHIP SUZUKI SIDEKICK 1990-1998 GAS (item 270318686132 end time Mar-01-09 10:07:00 PST)
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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100 horse power, wow, Id give you $500 for that, wouldnt you?
This response is generic to all suppliers of such , SNAKE OIL. no persons or companies mentioned here !!
the first 3 digits in the add. are false, so why believe the rest.? why?
sencond falsehood, is MPG and more horse power. (an oxymorn) look up EFI tuning.

here is the truth. (dont take my word, read about EFI)

1- its illegal to mod any on road car in USA (efi tampering) ( but ok to sell , until caught)
need the US code for that ,,, have it! and proves tampering !

2- It only has 2 wires, and the drawing implies it mod's the IAT and ECT. (photos)
Now if car is broken (bad EFI AND NOT running in closed loop this unit can work)
if car is stuck in warmup mode, limphome or has a dead 02 sensor , this can work.
fix your car, why drive it broken.

3: if car is running perfect (EPA stoich 14.7:1) then this unit will either do nothing or it will
prevent closed loop from happening. which is illegal and can make more power if he goes richer (who knows what the frack he's doing, and why would you trust him?)

4: if he goes too lean , say good by to the CAT conv. $$

5: if he goes too rich, same, the Cat will run real hot and will self destruct in short order.

6: the other possibility; it is a "black box" (it's not a chip , ok) does nothing whatsoever.
so it ONLY damages your pocket book and wastes your time trying to prove it works
wasted personal time. worth for more than the product.

snake-oil

he fails my #1 test. WILD CLAIMS.
and lots more.

Now if you dont care about smog or the law, and want better MPG or a tiny bit if power.
then there are ways to fool an ECU.
but it will take far more wires than 2 to do it.

one way is to unplug the 02 sensors ( this only works on some cars, no knowing in advance because it is software)
after unplugging the o2
you can adjust the AFR by placing a simple Potentiameter in series with the IAT and the ECT and adjust the AFR.
On 8v engine the IAT has great power ( 16v little)
the ECT can be adjust from 160 deg F to 212 for more degrees , effecting the AFR.
this illegally shuts down the closed loop function of the EFI and puts the CAT con at great risk.

it only costs $1 to do this mod. so why make this "GUY" rich.
if you need a source for such parts , then just ask,
im an electronics tech and know how to do all these things.

BTW, manyoff these guys are under investigation for illegal EPA tempering.
he will get caught and may loose all profits and if that happens his records will be
captured, including the buyers names and addresses.
keep that in mind when you buy illegal devices and use them.

buyer beware.
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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great wright up!!!!
what about zmax??? carol shelby endorses it??? lol:-D no but really? zmax any good????
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default snake oil,, does it ever end.?

zmax the oil additive? Oh NO. not the love of oil and related's, post. RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

im an electronics tech, not a chem tech, but i do know this , dont mix chemistry you don't understand. (ask any oil engineer that question and get the same answer, IMHO)
{exceptions, you re desperate and are snatching at straws, just don't be...}


Carol gets paid big bucks for endorsements. why would his name make something good.

with chemistry we only need one thing,
what are the ingredients.

the infomercial ads( id don't watch, tv so had to google it)
makes wild outrageous claims, so
that fails the first test.

why go further.?

the MSDS lists it as only minerlal oil, cas=8042-47-5 99%

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read ABUS.
this guy cuts thru the bull


personally id never put this in any engine , until they disclose what it is.
even the general classification
and
3rd party true scientific oil testing methodology.

1st what damage does it do to your precious syn base oil and oem sny additives.

last if its so darn good, why didnt Chevron buy them out.

or
in the same track, why doesn't Chevron just do a full spectro analysis of the product and copy it. then Create Techron MACH III. oops , I wonder why? I do?

i leave that for you to answer, to for sure self. As surely we all do.

I'd spend all my free time , replacing the oil and lubes and fluids , on a shorter schedule before i'd consider any snake oil.

I'm not a skeptic, I'm a technician, and I don't listen to bs, testimonials or other hype, and TV drivel.
I want hard data and valid tests done by independent test labs, certified for engine oil testing!
keep in mind ,engine oil gets burned in the combustion chamber and has very special needs.

This is the sellers responsibility and not anyone else, after all, are you going to test all 10,000 snake oils on the market for free? (and feebay), I suspect not.

cheers.

PS: before answering , do you sell this stuff?

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NO I DONT SELL THAT SH!T just thought id throw it in here. i just use syn oil and jet fuel. he he. i read you bought a hydro kit how did that go???
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sorry, just had my sales nose a sniffing....
no , way would i waste time with that.?
( and gas is $1.64 gal. , less than bottled water)

the ones that work cost $10,000.00
eg:
PE cell driven array, or exh man. nano thermistor driven.

the alternator way is useless, as altenaters are not fee energy devices.
course what is.?

all this stuff is on the SAE web sight, done at great care...

cheers
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No, i have one comming on ebay myself. I hope its not crap.
Will let you know asap. Have you installed yet
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it is ,
100% pure, poppy cock, crap.

chip, they use the word just to get ppl to get warm and fuzzy,
like Intel inside or the like.

most of these guys.

sell
a resistor in a box. 3 cent simple resistor, or a $1 pot.
the only real fancy box, is the rear O2 sensor Mimic box. that is fancy.
but hard to find ones that really work to stop P0421 and the like.


YOU CAR runs in CLOSED LOOP (all 89 to 2009 EFI equipped Kicks)
the 02 sensor rules the roost, if the IAT lies, the O2 sees the lie and corrects.
Most just want it to work so bad, it seems to do so.. sad . huh?


if you force the lie bad enough (and you can) then the engine drops out of closed loop
then it can go a tad richer and make a tad more power.
but
the ECU may and will get upset, and drop to Limphome mode ,
rich and retarded and all gains are canceled. (rpm limit too)

so if you cant control the Limphome, mode, then why try.?

No one on earth can say how to fool this ECU,
why?
because each year it is different and the testing is very hard to do.

have fun. but
if you go to limphome and crack the manifold (red hot it will be up hill) and melt the CAT converter, then all is lost.
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ps:
no one sells PROM chips for Sidekicks. ( no Honda here)
so it is NOT chip able. (proms are chips, Read only memory chips)

they sell cow chips
yah.
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They are CRAP ... I wouldn't waste my time . Straight from a mechanic. If you want more power get some extractors and a tune up.
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