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Old 01-25-2009, 05:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Those who read my other post will know, I JUST bought a 96 tracker with 68k miles. Happy as a clam, right? Until I check fluids today. This tracker came from a little south of here: maybe low in 20's f. It's 5 degrees f here at night lately: OMG it froze!! SOLID block of greenish ice in overflow tank!! Please tell me this little box won't crack heads & blocks if frozen!! *Wishes to strangle previous owner* What idiot still puts water in there?? Please tell me theres enough freeze plugs that they won't break on freeze.

edit: I planned on calling shop TOMORROW for appt to flush & change ALL fluids/filters/lube/scheduled maintenance. Oh did I mention the tow driver? Says: "no problem I won't get stuck" proceeds to load tracker on to flatbed & gets STUCK on my STEEP & ice/snowy driveway... someone shoot me please.

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Just let it sit in a heated shop/garage for a day with the block heater plugged in and a trouble light (left on) between the engine and the radiator.


No need for anything except a warm up, and a system flush

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Just let it sit in a heated shop/garage for a day with the block heater plugged in and a trouble light (left on) between the engine and the radiator.


No need for anything except a warm up, and a system flush

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No block heater in it best i know, I just told em put it in the shop bc its was frozen, hope moron tow driver did so. Thanks for the reassurance, I hope your right. Just thankful I didn't drive it before discovering this... 68k engine not an easy find.
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a dry block is far batter than a wet one full of water.
dain it now.
water expands when frozen and will destroy anything.

some things are best lift to yourself.
buy a block heater , magnetic and slap it on the oil pan plug it in.
after it warms up , drain it and then put in 50/50.
end problem.
wishing or hoping someone else cares. is futile.
grab those horns.

im curious why do you need a tow truck.
?

imho. ymmv
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a dry block is far batter than a wet one full of water.
dain it now.
water expands when frozen and will destroy anything.

some things are best lift to yourself.
buy a block heater , magnetic and slap it on the oil pan plug it in.
after it warms up , drain it and then put in 50/50.
end problem.
wishing or hoping someone else cares. is futile.
grab those horns.

im curious why do you need a tow truck.
?

imho. ymmv
1: can't drain ice.
2: can't do many things myself when one is disabled.
3: can't buy block heater when only vehicle is frozen solid in driveway 2 miles from town.
4: why tow? I'm thinking not a good idea to drive frozen truck.
5: ymmv?
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1: can't drain ice. block heater will liquify all, inside.
2: can't do many things myself when one is disabled. (sorry!you didnt say that at get go, that has completly different , suggestions. Context is everything ,huh?
3: can't buy block heater when only vehicle is frozen solid in driveway 2 miles from town.
you dont have friend that can get you one.

4: why tow? I'm thinking not a good idea to drive frozen truck. (that is true)
5: ymmv?
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ymmv, your milage may vary.

i thought you just discovered the beginnings of frost in the tank
i did not know it has ICE BURGED on you.
that's a horse of a diff color.
poster , how much will it cost you , dont you mean?

the potential is wrecked block and head./

as anyone with boat motor they left full of water.

Id never buy any car in the winter with out my trusty RAD hydrometer.
take a reading and take action.

the car needs to be protected.
either with antifreeze or with a block or inline water heater.
if that doesnt happen , the engine is going to be damaged.
depends on the temperature.

look in your refridgerator see ice cube, see them bulging up.
that is the force to be delt with.
ice can crank house size bolders inhalf.

sorry for your problem.
i see no solution.
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Well, I'm very relieved. Just tt shop: no cracked block/head symptoms. Mech says ice was just in overflow!! YAAAAAAAAY!! <-- happy fuzzy!! So... it cost me the tow, but beats a broken engine by a long shot.
Next I see about tires/wheels & suspension. Per my other post, still looking for anyone who is/has used Old Man Emu suspension (spring/strut/shocks), or another brand. Again my purpose is to improve ride quality with little to no lift.
Will be contacting vendor about this very soon.

Thanks all for input, Fuzz
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4x4? - won't be the softest ride.

Buy some advanced auto parts shocks... the ones ur listing are usually for lift. If the weather lightens up some I will get you the brand I have on my white 4x2 tracker which rides smooth as ice with a bowling ball. With that many miles I would see how it rides before really doing anything -- you maybe able to wait until it has 100k before changing even though the stock ones aren't so smooth but are durable.
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4x4? - won't be the softest ride.

Buy some advanced auto parts shocks... the ones ur listing are usually for lift. If the weather lightens up some I will get you the brand I have on my white 4x2 tracker which rides smooth as ice with a bowling ball. With that many miles I would see how it rides before really doing anything -- you maybe able to wait until it has 100k before changing even though the stock ones aren't so smooth but are durable.
Yeah, the OME springs do show slight lift, which is ok: 1' front 1.25" rear. That small a lift is tolerable for me IF in fact they ride lots better. Yes it's 4wd, main reason I got it is to get up & down my hill/driveway in snow. Softest ride I don't expect ofc, but better than it is sure would be nice. I'll be tt the vendor I linked in my other post to find out if that's the variable rate spring they mention in the promo paragraphs up top. I'll be putting 15x8" alloys & probably an aggressive tread mud/snow tire, (235/75/r15) but not all terrains or m/t's on it. The intent with the rims is for wider stance/better stability. I'm also hoping to fit the hydraulic seat mount from my Dodge Raider into this, but dont know yet if it will fit w/out raising the seat too high. Anyone ever done that?? Hehe, not likely I guess... they were only available as an option on '89 Raiders, & were pricey at the time so lots didn't get em... they are VERY hard to find now. I don't know if there are others available aftermarket, tho I spose probably... somewhere.
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since PO topped off tank overflow with just water,
watch it carefully, maybe he is hidding water consumption.?
early head gasket issue? watch that tank like a hawk. ?
same with brake fluid, and oil.
for first 3k, and every gas fill LOOK.
if you see consumption, you have issues.


the OME site has no specifactions on it ,just bs.
id like to see spring rate, type of spring, (whether they are variable rate springs)
and right height base on body type.
2door and 4 door bodys have radical diff. weights, too bad he doesnt mention any of that.

since its 5f out side at night, you might now be proactive and check the ratio of water and antifreeze. Ignoring the freeze point can be really bad news.
and check pads and shoes all around and inspect for cracked rotor disks.
then inspect the front bearings for there being any grease left.

sorry if this is all SOP, Std.op.procedure, with you. but other read this too. soo...
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