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Old 12-19-2008, 09:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow UPDATED !! Still can't find the flasher relay 96 tracker

Man I have looked everywhere for the dang flasher, it's not under the drivers side, or engine compartment, I found info that stated it's under the dash beside the radio and I have found some relays there but not one I think is the flasher relay, my understanding is the flasher relay has info on it for the number of lamps it will light etc, I haven't found anything that has this on it. This tracker was mfg. 9/95 and it was made in Canada don't know if that would make a difference or not compared to other mfg. locations.

Does anyone have a FSM page showing the location, it's possible the flasher relay I got at the auto parts is not even the right one for this model (three prong) and it's also possible the dang relay might not even be installed right now, but I have found no open connectors with the right color and number of wires for the flasher relay.

Thanks for any help or info. I already have the wiring diagram for the blinkers or winkers as jtgh calls them.

Here is some pics of the relays under the dash.

Also while I'm asking a question there's a clear hose with plastic barb connection about 3/16" diameter with a spring inside it that is not connected to anything, I found this behind the glove box area anyone know what the heck it goes to?

Well hell it won't let me upload the pics, I usually don't have any trouble with this on other Vbulletin forums says the files are too large tried upload from computer and from my image host.

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Hazard relay on vehicles produced before 12/04/1995 is located behind RH side of I/P in front of the blower motor. Vehicles produced after 12/04, center of the I/P mounted vertically behind the blower speed selector switch on a bracket together w/ the fuel pump relay, main relay, horn relay and finally the turn signal/ flasher relay, which is most likely the second one up from the bottom on your unit.

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Old 12-19-2008, 02:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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corrected.

here is 92-95 , attached 1.
and
96 attached 2.says 98 ,but is ok.

both.

a day late and $1 short.
$2 short now.
this posting answer 2 posts at once and many viewers quesitons.


better 96-98 dash drawing calling out ALL relays , as newer post asked.

note this PL shows two #5 relays, "ERROR" but... see wire colors.
one is fuel pump, the other is main. (top 2 relays) run engine.
bottom 2 are head lamps.

the fuel pump has a PINK wire, that is the BEST ID.

note HORN relay can be used to repair Bad Fuel pump relay or MAIN relay.

Deal of the day.

cheers.

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Old 12-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hazard relay on vehicles produced before 12/04/1995 is located behind RH side of I/P in front of the blower motor. Vehicles produced after 12/04, center of the I/P mounted vertically behind the blower speed selector switch on a bracket together w/ the fuel pump relay, main relay, horn relay and finally the turn signal/ flasher relay, which is most likely the second one up from the bottom on your unit.
I have the vertical relay bracket with the relays behind the switch, I'll try my pics again here. All the relays on that bracket have the same number on them. jtgh where 41 is on your diagram I can't find in that location.





The picture with the box I'm holding has a chip board in it not sure what it does, the bracket with the relays and the little black box is all I can find near the heater blower or behind the radio.
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Update, just went out and pulled the 2nd one up on the bracket, not it, looked over at the heater motor blower area and there she blows, finally I have found it, flying Scotsman I owe you a cold one , man after all the skint knuckles, twisted out of shape postitions and much frustration, thanks for sure. Here's a pic of it and for all my efforts and those from folks here, I replaced the relay and presto the blinkers and emergency flashers are working now. Well at least now I know how to get the glove box out of the way, I know where some relays are behind the dash, where all the fuses are and some stuff I don't have a clue to what it is. and hopefully this will help someone else with a 96 to find the dang flasher!! Now can someone tell me what the clear tubing with the wire inside is for since it's not hooked up before I put everything back together, I have a pic of it as well?




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John TN's mystery tube has to be part of the A/C system, maybe an interior temperature sensor connected to the A/C amplifier. There are no vacuum lines near the end and the shape of the wire looks like something for converting temperature into an electrical signal. Anyone else have a guess?

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I believe I have found the hose on the other side of the firewall, if it is the same hose it is dead ended and not attached to anything, I will put some air through it to see if indeed it is the same hose, and I will post the results.
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I've never actually seen one of those hoses but I do remember a post on one of the Suzuki forums showing the same thing. The general concensus of opinion was that it was part of the A/C system.
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After finding the location of the other end of the hose near the window wash tank and pump I believe it to be for a rear window wash for a hard top, this is a guess at best since I really don't have a clue if hardtops have a rear washer other than the location of the ending of the hose. I'm thinking the spring is to keep the hose from getting pinched or bent, again a guess at best.
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96 does have optional rear washer.
in fact tank is diff, (has 2 pumps)

keep in mind, some harness might have the hose, and not option for RR washer.
saving yet another iteration of harndess and costs.
I know id waste 20 cent hose for that, I would.
the hose is only shown leaving the door rear and never shown again, in the Parts Diag.

this is the second posting of this here, with no answer yet.

The harness lists are huge already and a vast number of extra connectors, connectg to nothing, missing options, cruise-cont, electric windows. door locks, 2 trannys , 2wd, 4wd. ( lots)
just to mention a few.

hope that helps.
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