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Old 12-01-2008, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello

I have a suzuki vitara from 1996 and i have this connector under the dashboard.
I tried to search for some info about this connector.Altough it seems like ALDL connector, the pinout is not the same.
Do you know where i can get some more info about this?

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what county ?
usa is 100% obd2 ecu in 1996+
europe is 2001 , obd2 (called diff but same mostly)
what engine.?
vitara in what country. there are 8 Vitara's and may be 20 market configs.

the connector BTW is the correct one for ALDL.
power, ground and serial (i/o) data.

what are you wanting to do. that is the real question.
tell that.

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Old 12-02-2008, 05:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello jtgh!

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what county ?
usa is 100% obd2 ecu in 1996+
europe is 2001 , obd2 (called diff but same mostly)
what engine.?
vitara in what country. there are 8 Vitara's and may be 20 market configs.
I'm in Portugal,Europe.
Its Vitara 1.6 gasoline altough I'm not sure if its 16v. or 8v...It's lame I know...

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the connector BTW is the correct one for ALDL.
power, ground and serial (i/o) data.
Looks like ALDL but the pins dont match like ALDL (A,M,E) and there is no B pin. At least it doesn't match with info i got from this site: ALDL OBD1 OBD cable OBDI OBD2 engine codes

This serial data you mention is 160 baud or 8192?

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what are you wanting to do. that is the real question.
tell that.
cheers.
I would like just to have to have some diagnostics about the car.I dont want to tweak ECU values.Just to read them...For the moment that's all.I've been my own mechanic for the car and I would like to get to know it better.
You think I can directly connect ALDL cable (as long as I figure out the outputs,of course) to this to have real-time data?

Thanks alot,
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Seabra,

Do a search in this forum for the "Diagnostic Interfaces" thread.
It has a lot of info,
(for that matter, it has a lot of postings!).

It will have links to jtgh's and rhinoman's webpages.
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Wow!
Thanks alot for your answer.This was the info i was looking for.
Thanks once again

Regards,
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I want : "just to have to have, some diagnostics about the car."

yooh , and a thousands of others.

now that i know what you want and where you are......

ok, good.

There are no cheap scan tools for suzuki's that use ALDL. 89-95 usa. and all up to 2001 EU. (europe was slow to catch on to OBD2 , a standard) [ except used Tech1 factory scan tools selling used for $500]

facts:
1:cars that are OBD1 level , are all incompatible between each manufacture of car.
each car company designed an interface , diff, than an other. ( no standards in place at that time)
2: Suzuki never released the protocol for there cars (pre 96 usa/canada, pre 2001 EU)

i have taken the pains of calling every scan tool ww and asked for a tool for these old cars. (ignore the advertising hype, read the fine print) Each said, no suzuki support. , so does the books that come with.
on the old cars. (old = obd1)

you have only 2 choices.

1: read the blink codes.
2: wait for Rhinoman to finish a working software logger. ( most does work)

But.....
Rhinoman has the communications working, I do too, due to his genious.
but we only need to discover a few more parameters and then finish the software.
the hardware is less than $50 (Rs232 to TTL232 , bidirectional serial adaptor, ALDL)

addr-hacking1a

last photo is the adaptor. Nothing fancy or expensive.

the baud (bit rate)
the baud is 15625 ( the first motorola processor ran at 1,000,000 hertz and the only divide choice (rational) was 64 in the scaler section, 1m div by 64 = 15625
all the facts on this are on my page. and rhinomans.


so bingo, your not the only on wanting to log data.

there is no guarantee that this protocol as discovered, will work from 89-2001 in EU zuzuki's but it does work on a 91 here and does on Rhinomans cars. ( no published spec. makes this hard ,huh?)
his web site is linked.

Rhinoman's Portal


cheers.
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I assume that this is a Santana built vehicle, VIN code VSEETxxxxxxx.
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Hello Rhinoman

Thanks alot for your interest.
Yes,I confirm it is a Santana built vehicle.

S

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Hello

Any news about rhinoman's data logger?
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ebay shows one posted Tech1 , about 1 time a year.
bid that, expect to pay $400

use the flash codes, like the rest of us , hacks.

do you have issues?

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Code you explain me how to get flash codes?
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