I decided to put a new 192 degree thermostat in my 1994 Tracker. I bought a new thermostat and gasket. It seems the previous owner didn't use a gasket. The cover was glued on with RTV silicone. There is a black rubber ring stuck to the top (outer edge) of the old thermostat. I'm sure that prying out the old thermostat will destroy this rubber ring. I'm not sure (very doubtful) that the new gasket will seal the new thermostat without this rubber ring. I have the FSM but this strange ring is not mentioned. The local parts stores don't have this ring. Has anyone encountered this problem before? What is the best solution?
I decided to put a new 192 degree thermostat in my 1994 Tracker. I bought a new thermostat and gasket. It seems the previous owner didn't use a gasket. The cover was glued on with RTV silicone. There is a black rubber ring stuck to the top (outer edge) of the old thermostat. I'm sure that prying out the old thermostat will destroy this rubber ring. I'm not sure (very doubtful) that the new gasket will seal the new thermostat without this rubber ring. I have the FSM but this strange ring is not mentioned. The local parts stores don't have this ring. Has anyone encountered this problem before? What is the best solution?
yours is factory stat 60823 with rubber oring
no housing gasket is called out in TSB.
see snafu. how to purchase parts
2 housings manifolds really ,1 shallow one 4mm deep.
deep uses only the oring to seal.
see tsb for details.
note parts are not upward compatible ,but are downward,see matrix chart on TSB.
very confusing.
but Suzuki was fickle sending out random intake manifolds,
so no cut off dates.. (none published anyway)
jtgh is right, you need the ring. The previous owner of my 95 omitted it and it wouldn't attain proper operating temperature. Look here, I think jtgh's post got misplaced:
jtgh is right, you need the ring. The previous owner of my 95 omitted it and it wouldn't attain proper operating temperature. Look here, I think jtgh's post got misplaced:
yours is factory stat 60823 with rubber oring
no housing gasket is called out in TSB.
see snafu. how to purchase parts
2 housings manifolds really ,1 shallow one 4mm deep.
deep uses only the oring to seal.
see tsb for details.
note parts are not upward compatible ,but are downward,see matrix chart on TSB.
very confusing.
but Suzuki was fickle sending out random intake manifolds,
so no cut off dates.. (none published anyway)
big time mess up here.
So where does the O-ring go, on top, or bottom of the T-stat? I guess I can learn something when I take mine apart, at least if it was done right the last time.
I bought an o-ring with my t-stat, but like someone else mentioned the service manual doesn't even show or mention an o-ring
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'95 (US, made in Canada) soft top Sidekick JX, 4x4, 1.6L 16 valve, 5 speed, Superwinch hubs- stock except for tow bar
So where does the O-ring go, on top, or bottom of the T-stat? I guess I can learn something when I take mine apart, at least if it was done right the last time.
I bought an o-ring with my t-stat, but like someone else mentioned the service manual doesn't even show or mention an o-ring
The o-ring goes around the circumference of the T-stat. The o-ring should have a slot in the inner circumference to achieve that. Good luck.
So where does the O-ring go, on top, or bottom of the T-stat? I guess I can learn something when I take mine apart, at least if it was done right the last time.
I bought an o-ring with my t-stat, but like someone else mentioned the service manual doesn't even show or mention an o-ring
The O-ring has a groove around the the inner diameter that goes over the outer diameter of the thermostat so the same ring seals the top and bottom. This ring is not available separately from anyone. It can only be gotten as part of the VERY rare and costly special thermostat. I figured that there must be a better way as I already had the wrong thermostat and gasket. I actually thought it would be easy. I went to my local rubber house to get a standard o-ring 56mm OD with a 3mm cross section. I figured I could just drop in the ring, drop in the thermostat, slap on the gasket and screw on the cover. My rubber house has every size 0-ring, rubber hose and rubber belt made, BUT nothing in the exact size I needed. I solved the problem at my local hardware store. I bought a 3 inch strip of 1/8" thick red plumbers rubber. This stuff comes on foot wide rolls in different thicknesses that is sold by the inch. It also comes in precut assorted packages. Using my old Harbor Freight gasket cutter I made my own rubber ring. It came out with a 55mm OD and 45mm ID. I would have made the ID smaller but then the ring would have covered the thermostat bleed hole and I didn't know if the bleed hole was important. (The original thermostat had no bleed hole.) When I placed the thermostat on the my rubber ring and checked with my metric vernier caliper, it measured EXACTLY 4mm thick. I glued in the rubber ring in with a smear of silicone RTV around the housing bore. Now I can drop in a "common" cheap thermostat that will sit dead even with the top of the thermostat housing. All I have to do then is slap on a common paper gasket and screw down the cover. It's all easier to do than explain. Future thermostat changes will now be quick and easy (I hope).
that is accurate nfo, but ....
"This ring is not available separately from anyone."
the above is wrong. I see 3 sources with a 10min cruise at the top3
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if you look in their on line cat.s, it is there and so are both types of stat.
suzuki online shows only 1 stat an not gaskets but if you call and ask for all 3 you can at lest get a full kit for both the deep socket 4mm and the shallow 1mm.
the tsB i linked shows all the part numbs,
its clear ? right ?
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Rubber ring?
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