I was driving the sidekick last night and go to push the clutch in to shift into 2nd. I can't recall if I heard a noise or anything but the clutch just stuck to the floor and I couldn't shift. I can lift the pedal up but once i put any pressure on it, it just drops to the floor. There seems to be no resistance. I get the car home and take off the clutch cable and everything seemed fine with it. Putting it back on just stressed me out more because I managed to snap the screw when attaching the cable to the firewall.
So basically the it's just the same. But I realized that even now the car won't start if the pedal isn't down. When I lifted it up to its normal position I couldn't start the car (I thought the clutch might be stuck "open?" so I would be able to start the car regardless of the position of the pedal). So it isn't until I drop the pedal down to the floor when the car can start.
The shifter still doesn't shift into any gears.
Does anyone have any idea what happened? It's my only car, my daily driver, so fixing it ASAP will be great. I don't know alot about cars at all, just a bit more than the average joe, so help me with this. I'm also a college student so I'm trying my best to figure this out myself before going anywhere else.
Andy923: My initial thoughts are you broke a spring (fork) in the pressure plate. Either way, it sounds like you did some preliminary checks for the obvious, and discovered nothing odd. I think the transmission is going to have to be removed to investigate further. Just my thoughts, and despite this have a great Thanksgiving...
Same thing has happened to me 3 times now, it;s always been the spline, it falls out of adjustment.
I would check spline lever on the clutch, adjust that you should be fine.
It's a little tricky because it's tight under there, do a thread search on the subject.
upper pedal spline failure is a ( victim , not actual prob)
spline will fail , cuz.
1: rusted seized cable.
2: clutch fork shaft seized, or bad throw out or bad clutch pressure plate,
3: or rarer , the tanny input shaft is so scored the disk hub spine is jamming on the input shaft spline.
in physics and engineering, , they mention , the Irresistibly force against an immovable object.
the key point, avoid it.
when this happens the weakest link is the fail point.
that weak point, is your pedal spline.
upper pedal spline failure is a ( victim , not actual prob)
spline will fail , cuz.
1: rusted seized cable.
2: clutch fork shaft seized, or bad throw out or bad clutch pressure plate,
3: or rarer , the tanny input shaft is so scored the disk hub spine is jamming on the input shaft spline.
in physics and engineering, , they mention , the Irresistibly force against an immovable object.
the key point, avoid it.
when this happens the weakest link is the fail point.
that weak point, is your pedal spline.
hope that helps.
I can not offer a way to test the load?
i HAVE TO DISAGREE THAT THEY DO WEAR OUT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IT'S ONL;Y HELD ON BY ONE NUT & SCREW, EVANYTUALLY THEY CAN WEAR OUT FROM ALL THE PEDAL USAGE, I'M SURE IT COULD BE ACCELERTAED DUE TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS U MENTIONED.
okay.. I take back what I said, I don't know that much about cars because that took me a while to figure out what you guys were talking about.
At the moment, the cable is removed and not attached to the car (I was interrupted and had to leave to work on something else).
Well, I looked at the picture at the bottom of the page that jtgh posted and I was wondering.. is the spline piece connected to #25? I checked that part and I don't think it's stripped or anything.
the pedal has 6:1 ratio.
if one develops 100 lbs on the pedal and its jammed, it is known to strip.
corrosion and pervious over load from pervious owners.
but me I can not predict anything, only wax what is common,
sorry if i made your problem seem less important or not valid , twas not my intent.
cheers.
No no, my point was just alot of times things can be so simple as the tighting of a nut, which in my case was the case several times. I notice that this is prolbem is becoming more a problematic issue, there are a couple of threads a month lately on the same subject.
It's a freaky thing too when to when it happens, esspecially when it comes out of no where like most people claim it happens.
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