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Old 08-31-2008, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New to me,just bought 1991 tracker conv.1.6,8v,4x4,4speed auto.(got it cheap)beginning to see why (lol).
Old owner installed low miliage calif.motor,never got it running.
I have installed new fuel filter,plugs,wires.roter ,set timeing,ran good for 2hrs. started running bad a little at a time,
Started booging down while driveing,idel going up and down,poor top end power.dying at idel,can keep runing with cas pedal
Cleaned EGR ,got #12 code,has good fuel pressure,ran yesterday,this morning wont start,no fire to gauges,nothing works,starter spins.
Not a real good mech. but read chilten book fair
ANY IDEAS!!!!! need advise
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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presume hot spark.

1 bad gas,
2 bad caps in ecu on all 91's if not already replaced.
3: clogged screens on outside of injector. in TB.

no fire to gauges <<< explain please.

no start, check:
spark, then fuel pressure, then NOID lamp. (noid is injector test lamp)
my web page covers 91's 100% (for running)

Jerrys main sidekick page

tell more, get more....

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Old 08-31-2008, 03:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks
Fresh cas,checked filters on injector,not pluged up.
Gages,,I meant to say no CEL or any lights working. I kind of supected ecu all the time,guess will get mine from guy on ebay.
Thanks for fast reply
OOPS ! no fire to plugs

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no spark from plugs and from the coil itself? (move wire to coil from a plug and test)

no spark , most likely bad ECU or bad cas sender in dizzy.
ECU loves to make spark and rarely does not. very rare. ( forgetting the dang caps)
cas is easy to test with an LED.

the CEL must come on , key on, no start, if it dont.
1: cel lamp bad or fuse to dash blown.
2: ecu dead, ( CEL on keyon is a test )
if must come on.

now , if you have 30watt solding iron must replace the corner cap, 33 cents.
all most all dead ECU is because of this very old and leaky cap.
they buldge, they crack and the blow out side , with tiny looking vulcano , or just drip.
just mark what pin is Plus and Minus and the replace observing polarity.
any tech,can do this, any. ( recommend solder sucker or solder wick to remove old solder, use only rosin solder to do it and never acid core)

ESD: (many worry, and is real.)
(if paranoid about ESD ,just do all work laying on a sheet of aluminum foil from wifes kitchen. a grounded tip soldering is best but you can wrap bare wire on tip rear and the other end to the aluminum foil, making ESD , not an issue.
a 3 wire soldering iron solves this.
work on metal or wood bench and no pastic top tables.

esd = electrostatic discharge. ( MOS devices are sensative to it , CPU is MOS)

My ECU is bad now what?

replace C111 on all 91 kicks, and some newer , upto 95. (cant speak for behind)
if they say , rubycon, they are crapola.
get them out.


id check lamp first. Ians f no fire to guages me, that all guages and lamps dead , then tell me.
check fuses , if still no dash indictors, then we need to work that.
tell me more.

we can make any 8v work, it is a nice engine and efi system.and the engine dont blow up with tbelt snaps. ( just 1 injector to worry too and one can watch it squirt !!!)


see pm mail for link.
and pass word

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Checked fire at coil,NUTTIN,found blown fuse(ig coil meter)inserted new fuse blew it right away.


Removed ECU ordered rebuilt on E-BAY,have to wait for that!!

Still nothing workes as far as gages,no other fuses blown



Thanks for your input

Think I am already in LOVE with tracker,kind of remindes me of ex-wife(LOL)she didnt work either an cost a lot of money to keep
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if it flies, floats or fools around,its going to cost you. ahahahahahah

ok the fuse the feeds the black wire, is called Ign Coil meter fuse.
it also feeds the dash lights at B6 into speedo head. so as long as that fuse blows, most dash lights are dead, in speedo.

after unplugging ECU, put in a new fuse.
if it pops , your search has just begun.

the fuse runs tons of things.

see schematic. i gave you. (pm mail)
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