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Old 06-23-2008, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face bad mpg, hesitation, no CEL!!!

I just picked up an 89 sidekick auto, pretty stock. The previous owner stopped using it because of bad fuel economy. It stalls when cold and takes a couple of minutes to get a stable idle, once it is warm it hesitates on take off quite a bit, and then it goes alright. I can hear a small leak pre-cat I believe, when I cover the tailpipe it becomes louder. The CEL works normally, turns on when key is on , and turns off when the car has started.

I have read through a lot of posts and got very good information. I am wondering if anybody has any suggestions as to where to start.

Thanks in advance
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by the way, it has a new radiator
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I just picked up an 89 sidekick auto, pretty stock. The previous owner stopped using it because of bad fuel economy. It stalls when cold and takes a couple of minutes to get a stable idle, once it is warm it hesitates on take off quite a bit, and then it goes alright. I can hear a small leak pre-cat I believe, when I cover the tailpipe it becomes louder. The CEL works normally, turns on when key is on , and turns off when the car has started.

I have read through a lot of posts and got very good information. I am wondering if anybody has any suggestions as to where to start.

Thanks in advance
Cracked exhaust manifold?
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1.6L ?

8 valves ?

EFI SPI or MPI or CARB.

varies world wide the configs.
tell exact engine type. and Fuel set up.

also what missing, or modified.
EGR, CATcon, ?

tell that and we can get 30mpg on highway or close.

I just (finally ) got that myself, , last fix was 195 Deg. F. Thermostat.

ECU on older cars are dumb. it will never throw a code for poor ops.
it thows codes only for catastrophic failures. like an open TPS or something shorted to ground.
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yes and any leak on the manifold(exh). will throw lots of illegal oxygen on the OXY sen.
this will force the car rich. ( to match the oxy )
unless ecu detects this gross fail (unlikely in 89) and then drop you to 13:1 AFR saving some gas.
if not , it runs like a pig. (15mpg reported by many here)
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Damn, 30mpg? I have a stock 95 2 Dr 4X4, 16V auto with 144K on the clock and am OK with getting 25mpg. Was it the 195 stat that did it? Just did a tune up upon purchase 6 months ago.
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If you've got the 3 spd auto you won't get 30mpg. Tracka96
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If you've got the 3 spd auto you won't get 30mpg. Tracka96
right. It also depends on what kind of fuel you are using. I live in Arkansas, where we do not use ethanol blends, and I can get 30 mpg with my 5 spd. I went to Missouri this weekend, where state law requires at least 10% ethanol in their gas, and I only got a little over 25 mpg. Ethanol blended gasoline is not as efficient as regular gasoline.
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Thar she is. 3 spd auto with that stupid ethanol. Based on corn. Feed is made of corn, so in addition to ethanol being crap for my rig there is a shortage for feed for livestock, etc which drives up the cost of food at the market.... where will it all end up?? Suppose I should learn to hunt and kill the feral pig family (10) on my land. Bacon was $5-$6 today at the store.
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Or you could hitch up some of those pigs and train them to pull your tracker, everybody wins! Tracka96
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