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Old 12-08-2007, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1992 sidekick jx missing bracket for sensor

I was told by someone 6 to 7 months ago that there is a bracket that is broke off and that it holds a sensor in place to keep it from getting hot too close to the engine. I have no idea what bracket they were talking about. Just got vehicle back after 6 months from having body work done and taking vehicle for inspection of salvage title. Vehicle belonged to my sister and niece wrecked it, had minor damage to body, but was enough to total it out for insurance company, purchased vehicle from my sister for 594.00 salvage price. Friend of mine did body work and repainted vehicle. He only worked on it on the weekend, it looks great now. Vehicle has over 200 thousand miles on it. Am currently putting next up from regular gas in it, and will probably run another tank thru, it's a little boggy driving it right now, I have noticed that the temperature gauge does not seem to move, so I need to know if this is a sensor? Vehicle has check engine light on, and has had light on for quite a while, since before acquiring it from my sister, she never did anything about it. It starts after about 3 or 4 times of turning the key, it is fuel injected so I don't mess with pumping the pedal. It runs strong when first started for a few miles, then starts to bog down, I notice mostly after going around 60 to 65 mph then reducing my speed to around 50 to 55 mph I get this bogging down that drops to about 40 to 45 mph. Then takes a while before it comes back up to the right speed, really have to give it a good amount of pedal to get there.

I am just wondering about that bracket, something about that letting the sensor lay too close to the engine. Does anybody know what I am referring to? And any advice would be greatly appreciated. Vehicle is automatic and can be shifted into 4 wheel drive high or low.

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Old 12-08-2007, 03:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Also forgot to mention, sisters husband put tracker engine in this vehicle about 40,000 miles ago, Tracker engine probably has a total of just over 100 thousand miles on it now.
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Preamble: 92 Fed48 KICK with 4doors,and 4speed.
this is a long post with 16000 views, now.
we fix every problem on her car, many there were.
i even fixed her ecu. (had acid damage from leaking caps)
she loves her car, as it is the only car that will go up here very long, steep , rocky muddy driveway. (ask her, it is a very serious offroad experience)

and it seems someone put a Calif. ECU in her , Fed48 body car.
causing code 53 to throw.
happy reading.


first off tell use what you have, year,engine,transmission type, 2door,4door, 2wd or 4wd.
once we have that,we can help you.
but...

have you done a tune up.? cap,rotor,wires, plugs, filters.

what year engine did you add, and which type.? 8 or 16.
is engine 8valve or 16 valve? (16 is marked right on top big letters otherwise 8v)
pumping pedal only works if you floor it and this activates UNFLOOD mode, other wise
it will mess up starting. (pumping is for carbs)

does car idle at 1200 when cold.?
does car idle at 800 when hot? ( you will here it drop like a rock when it gets hot)

when car is hot, is the upper radiator hose too hot to touch?
tap tap with finger, feel it , should feel like 200 degress F. 100 C.
if hose is hot , nice and hot, and guage is cold , the guage or sensor is bad.
the sensor is screwed in to thermostat housing (car has 2 thermalsen for water)
one for engine, one for guage. The guage sensor will not confuse ECU or engine.

there, is a start. (IMO)
On any old car, it is best to check compression, timing (all) and belt conditions , if 16v then the timing belt is CRITICAL.

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start here with check engine lamp

Click >>>> CEL

you need to know if your car is CALif or fed car.
4 pins = FED
6 pins = Cal DLC diag logic connector next to front edge of batter.
do not pull battery , get the codes first.
the code can be a great help to diagnosis.
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I checked with my sister, she says its a 16 valve engine, they can't remember if its a 95 or 96 tracker engine, she said it was the same size engine as what was in the vehicle.

As far as a tune up, it hasn't had that done yet, last time tuned up would have been when the engine swap was done about 40,000 miles ago. The transmission is 4speed automatic with overdrive, original to the vehicle. They have only ever added transmission fluid.

And she just told me there is an oil leak, she always monitored the oil and added to it. I have not had the oil changed yet, I just got the vehicle back on Dec. 5th., drove it Thursday and it has sat since, will drive it tomorrow to work. Will also check the oil then as well and check what you said about the top hose. It supplies good heat, just doesn't change on the temp reading.

She is supposed to call me tomorrow and let me know if they find the receipt for the engine that was put in it. If they can't find it, will I need to look for numbers and where do I look?

To look at the vehicle from the outside, it looks fantastic, just like new, my friend did a really good job on it. He even sandblasted the wheels and repainted them for me. It looks absolutely gorgeous.

Just want to make sure it is up and running correctly. She said the check engine light came on some time after the engine was changed and that her husband couldn't figure out what it was.

What brands of plugs and other parts are best to buy for doing a tune up?

And is there a specific type or brand of transmission fluid that should be used?

What engine oil? I am in Ohio and it is winter here and cold.

Will definately know a little bit more tomorrow.

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I just went to the edmunds site and looked up standard equipment for this vehicle, it says 1.6L 14 SOHC 8v FI engine, it also says 5 speed manual transmission, don't know if that has any bearing on engine valve size or not, my sister bought this vehicle used from a car lot. Is there any where that I can enter the vin number and get what was in this vehicle when new?

Vehicle has right on the outside of it 16 valve on the body. Just thought this was odd, and conflicting.

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I checked with my sister, she says its a 16 valve engine, they can't remember if its a 95 or 96 tracker engine, she said it was the same size engine as what was in the vehicle.

As far as a tune up, it hasn't had that done yet, last time tuned up would have been when the engine swap was done about 40,000 miles ago. The transmission is 4speed automatic with overdrive, original to the vehicle. They have only ever added transmission fluid.

And she just told me there is an oil leak, she always monitored the oil and added to it. I have not had the oil changed yet, I just got the vehicle back on Dec. 5th., drove it Thursday and it has sat since, will drive it tomorrow to work. Will also check the oil then as well and check what you said about the top hose. It supplies good heat, just doesn't change on the temp reading.

She is supposed to call me tomorrow and let me know if they find the receipt for the engine that was put in it. If they can't find it, will I need to look for numbers and where do I look?

To look at the vehicle from the outside, it looks fantastic, just like new, my friend did a really good job on it. He even sandblasted the wheels and repainted them for me. It looks absolutely gorgeous.

Just want to make sure it is up and running correctly. She said the check engine light came on some time after the engine was changed and that her husband couldn't figure out what it was.

What brands of plugs and other parts are best to buy for doing a tune up?

And is there a specific type or brand of transmission fluid that should be used?

What engine oil? I am in Ohio and it is winter here and cold.

Will definately know a little bit more tomorrow.

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on top of valve cover. look
if it shouts in giant letters 16 Valve it is, otherwise it is 8v (black paint).

any store, bet brand name parts. NGK plug, quaility wires cap and rotor .
Bosch parts are very good.

the engine gauge ,first look at sender.
follow top rad hose down to you find the termostat housing.
see brass plug , well that is the guage sender. if the wire to it is missing then that is the problem (common to fall off).
http://carfix.stufftoread.com/ECU/16v-engine93w.jpg

this photo above is a 16v,
on the bottom see Radhose , see hose clamp, look 5 pm from there.
that is the Temp Gauge sender.

it must be wired.

looks like you have a 1.6L 16v , Automatic tranny,

The check engine lamp can be activated buy placing a short 2 inch wire as per that
like I sent above. It will blink out Morse code.
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Engine says 16 valve on it and electronic fuel injection, can't see any numbers on engine, When it starts up it is at 1400 then within about a minute it drops to 1200, and as it gets warmer it continues to drop to around 8, just a tiny bit below that. Top hose was warm to the touch, and temp gauge came up to the first 1/4 line, not any further, I let it sit running for about a half hour, heater works great. My husband also noticed a fan that came on when car was started and continued to run. He also said the fuel injection system isn't multi-port or the other one you mentioned, I told him you said multi-point. Sister still hasn't came thru with receipt for engine.

Currently I have copied all of the information you gave me to take to a mechanic I know that normally takes care of Hondas, I called and left him a message and haven't gotten a call back yet, I just feel more confident with him doing what you are saying for checking it out.

I tried to locate that plug you are talking about around the battery and can't see it, I could be looking right at it and not know that is what you mean.

I'm trying.

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Sister just called with receipt information, not a Tracker engine like she thought, receipt says 1992 suzuki 1.6 mfi engine. And picture of 16 valve engine, mine has the same colors on that electronic fuel injection part as the one in the picture, If I am looking at the picture right, hose you are talking about is in left lower corner and to the left of the clamp you are talking about it says evap vsv, so if I go to 5 o'clock from there it is that sort of round piece that screws into the shiny metal piece and to the right of that about 2 inches away directly across from that is a hole. Did I locate the right area? And I don't see any wires in this picture on that part, is that the right area? not the hole, to the left of the hole. I copied your picture so that in the daylight I can look for this.

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