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Old 03-13-2007, 01:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question engine swap

i was wondering what is all involved in an engine swap i am wanting to find Nissan 240sx or 300zx twin turbo engine to put in my sidekick, but i dont know what all i need to do and i dont even know if the engines will fit thanks.( i am wanting to turn my sidekick to a drifter )
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I think power is going to be the least of your worrys. You might want to get it to handle first. Koni makes ajustable front struts and rear shocks and both Intrax and H&R make lowering springs Ingalls and Intrax make cam bolts to ajust the front camber and Calmini makes a front and rear anti-roll bars as well as a limited slip differential.
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thanks for the info,if u have any more that would be great.
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how about a vortec 4.3 V6?

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How about a Mitsubishi TD04H-14B turbo and some nitrous.
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How about a Mitsubishi TD04H-14B turbo and some nitrous.

why only a stock 1st gen eclipse turbo? fully ported.. sure it can be impressive under wot. but i'd much rather see a t3/t4 with a 60 trim power any of these suzuki powerplant alternatives.
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Well the biggest reason I'm going with a TD04H-14B is because I got it free. But also I'm aiming for at least 300HP next year, and I'm guessing its going to take a lot of boost to achieve that level of power. I'm also anticipating some fairly cumbersome turbo lag and I'm going to try and counter it with nitrous. I'm going to replace all the internals except the crankshaft as the only real alternative is a Honda D16A but it's a lot of work and I m not crazy about Honda's. So instead its going to get knife edged, polished and balanced and maybe Cryoed. New forged H-beam rods and forged 8.5:1 compression pistons. As for the head Im going to stay with the SOHC 16V as I like the design though I'm not sure if it's going to be tough enough? Also going to run a copper head gasket and get the block o-ringed. New lightweight aluminum single under drive pully aluminum adjustable cam pully, regrind the cam for more lift and duration and a lightweight aluminum flywheel. As far as fuel management goes if I can ever get this Apexi SAFC I to work I hope in conjunction with the 450cc DSM injectors it will run ok but eventually plan to go with Megasquirt. O and a 1G DSM intercooler.
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Well the biggest reason I'm going with a TD04H-14B is because I got it free. But also I'm aiming for at least 300HP next year, and I'm guessing its going to take a lot of boost to achieve that level of power. I'm also anticipating some fairly cumbersome turbo lag and I'm going to try and counter it with nitrous. I'm going to replace all the internals except the crankshaft as the only real alternative is a Honda D16A but it's a lot of work and I m not crazy about Honda's. So instead its going to get knife edged, polished and balanced and maybe Cryoed. New forged H-beam rods and forged 8.5:1 compression pistons. As for the head Im going to stay with the SOHC 16V as I like the design though I'm not sure if it's going to be tough enough? Also going to run a copper head gasket and get the block o-ringed. New lightweight aluminum single under drive pully aluminum adjustable cam pully, regrind the cam for more lift and duration and a lightweight aluminum flywheel. As far as fuel management goes if I can ever get this Apexi SAFC I to work I hope in conjunction with the 450cc DSM injectors it will run ok but eventually plan to go with Megasquirt. O and a 1G DSM intercooler.

What motor are you planning this for? It sounds like a good setup so far.. but it sounds more familiar to me on dsm engines. Nitrous is also definitely not necessary. I assure you that if you have at least a 1.6 motor you will experience almost no turbo lag whatsoever with a fully ported 14B. That was my first upgrade turbo on my 97' GS-T and I was hitting a full 17 lbs. of boost at 3000 RPMs. The 14B is capable of 300WHP fully ported and with major engine work like that which you listed above, but that's about all it's capable of. You'll pretty much be maxing the turbo to full capacity to achieve that kind of horsepower and it will run very hot. A nice t3/t4 on the other hand will produce the same power at about half capacity and run much cooler.. but hey you can't beat a free turbo. Anyway I just made this huge-ass post about off-roading and when I tried to submit it asked me to login and I lost the whole thing! So back to that I go.
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That happens to me to, damn long posts, I usually copy what I've typed to clipboard before posting just in case. I have a spare bare G16A block that I'm building up. I'm sure that the lag wont be as bad as I think it will be but don't forget your DSM is 400cc bigger with a much (2.0L right?) higher flowing head. I guy at the shop I work at just dyno'ed his 92 TSI AWD stroker at 506 WHP. I know nitrous isn't necessary but I'm already using it and it's just to much fun.
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That happens to me to, damn long posts, I usually copy what I've typed to clipboard before posting just in case. I have a spare bare G16A block that I'm building up. I'm sure that the lag wont be as bad as I think it will be but don't forget your DSM is 400cc bigger with a much (2.0L right?) higher flowing head. I guy at the shop I work at just dyno'ed his 92 TSI AWD stroker at 506 WHP. I know nitrous isn't necessary but I'm already using it and it's just to much fun.

This is true, but there isn't much difference from 1.6 to 2.0 when you're dealing with a small turbo like the 14B. Also, keep in mind that with the amount of engine mods you plan to do... your motor will perform more like a 2.0 rather than a stock 1.6. The most important thing about spool time (and ultimately avoiding turbo lag) is FLOW. Use at least a 2.5" downpipe and no less than 2" cat-back and you will flow plenty for the turbo to spool up very fast. You'll enjoy the boost by itself so much.. you'll find yourself freezing and filling that giant baby bottle less and less.

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