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Old 01-07-2011, 06:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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All it would take is a relfash of the TCM...who knows maybe the issue is being looked into?
I have a sneaking suspicion that this is one way that Suzuki achieved their "class leading" low fuel consumption figure (only achievable under specific test conditions, not real world driving!). In fact I find the fuel consumption to be poor compared to my last 2 cars (Mazda 6), even though the Mazda was supposed to be more thirsty. If this is the case they won't make the change, which is a great pity as it would make for a much nicer car to drive. In real world conditions I doubt it would make much difference to the actual fuel consumption, but they wouldn't be able to claim 7.9L/100km average!

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Old 01-07-2011, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Driving an automatic transmission is bad enough then driving any type of CVT or what ever name one pins on it makes it just plain nasty. That said I'm only speaking for myself. My wife loves her Kiza and has nothing bad to say about the trans. If I bought a Kiza for myself the fix would be a manual....
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Agreed...6spd all the way...just needs to be available with AWD....AND IN CANADA!!!! Only CVT up here
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We've had our Kizashi for a month now and done 1000km. I am getting used to the CVT and don't mind it now. Using the throttle can balance the acceleration nicely, and I found that moderating the throttle under hard acceleration gave as good a performance as using the paddle shifters or tip-tronic.

Mine pulls the high gearing from only 1200rpm on level ground and while it does sound too low, I think it's more sound and feel rather than actual performance.

I'm getting mid to high nine's around town but did achieve 6.6l/100km on the freeway. The 7.9 figure is supposed to be an average of urban and rural driving and with more open road driving I think it is achievable. I'll find out when I get to take it on its first long trip. I do drive with the climate air on all the time though and of course that will affect economy some.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Default Kizashi 2012 CVT Transmission

I just purchased a 2012 Kizashi and didn’t really notice anything on my test drive. After buying the car and using it in my every day driving to work and home. I find that whenever I drive in automatic the car drives smooth up to 20 MPH but between 20MPH and 35MPH it struggles to pick up speed and the engine get very loud. Almost like if you're driving in manual and you forget to shift while going faster. I have taken it to the dealer and they say it’s fine. A CVT engine should be a smooth gradual transition while moving at faster speeds. It should not even be noticeable that the engine is picking up speed. The engine should be almost quiet and smooth. My car at 20MPH begins to slow and shake a little and it’s really bad when trying to go up hills. It’s obvious something needs to be reprogrammed but Suzuki wants to keep with the line “it’s a CVT engine”. I did not pay $20k for a car to drive like an $8k car. In no way is this normal.
I am going to keep calling and calling until someone admits the issue and does something about it. If you are having the same issues join me in adding the pressure. I’ll take this all the way to Japan if I have to. Here is some helpful contact information.

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Old 01-31-2012, 02:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Default 2012 Kizashi CVT Transmission issues

I am new to Suzuki and very concerned that after calling Suzuki Corp and my local dealer that I had to research to find recalls with my new 2012 Kizashi. That troubles me. I made a post of the CVT transmission not running smoothly in automatic. At 20 to 35 MPH the engine stalls and seems to shift down causing the engine to struggle to pick up normal speed. This is a transmission issue. After researching this I was able to find this web site.

http://www.iseecars.com/car-problems/suzuki-problems

Which lead me to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 888-327-4236
They listed a Technical Service Bulletin 2011/10/11 NHTSA #: 10042157 Service Bulletin #: SC-57-R-1. If you call Suzuki their recall # CSP-10B20. The recall is POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM): SUZUKI: ON CERTAIN MY 2012 VEHICLES (SX4/KIZASHI) EQUIPPED WITH CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSMISSION (CVT), A VOLUNTARY EMISSION CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN CONDUCTED FROM MANUFACTURER.
I called the dealer and they insist they have never heard of this issue and for all they know the car is running just fine. Well here is the definition of a CVT Transmission is not my understanding of what I have read and come to learn that it’s supposed to help the car pick up speed and accelerate giving a smooth drive. Not my new car.
To find the dealer and the manufacture was reluctant to openly give me this information because it’s related to the transmission and can become costly to them as a new car to replace the full transmission and in some cases the whole engine. There is a defect some place. Once I called the NHTSA and received the recall number. I called Suzuki and they remembered after me calling 4 times about his issue that they issued a recall update to the CVT transmission. They say it’s related to an SQ update to the TCP/PCM. So this recall is to give an update to the transmissions computer system to help give it that smooth ride. I am going to take it in to get this update and hope it fixes this issue. I am not a happy Suzuki customer to find this serious issue was not openly offered as a resolution to me as a customer by mail, email, phone or any form of communication. Not even after I called them to explain my issue. This is not how your auto manufacture should represent us as customers spending over $20k for their car.
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Hi Madboy, well done!!
It seems that Suzuki's customer service is the same in the US as in Australia, not that hot (I won't be buying another Suzuki).
I will be very interested to hear the outcome of your "software update" as will many others.
Like you, I didn't notice anything particularly bad on my test drives, but I was driving rather "enthusiastically" and the problem (at least my problem) is only apparent when driving the car gently.
I am sure it is down to programming of the CVT and could be quite easilly fixed. Once again really interested to hear a report back from you.
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Default Suzuki Kizashi 2012 SQ CVT Transmission Reprograming

Suzuki Kizashi 2012 SQ CVT Transmission Reprograming
I took the car to the dealer and they test drove it and said everything is working fine as they always say. I had to ask them to the SQ CVT transmission reprogramming. This is an update to the computer software for the transmission issued by Suzuki. So they went back to find there was an update available. I had to force them to do the update. After the update my car now runs normal with no lag or slowness to the engine as it did before. The car feels like a Porsche now. Itís powerful and very quick and fast and the CVT engine is now smooth. Itís like night and day to how the car was driving. I felt like I was driving an $8k car and now it feels like a $50k sports car, Amazing. I am happy now but still bothered my 2012 does not have standard AUX or Bluetooth.
This is your car and a CVT engine should run much better than a regular automatic engine. It should be smooth all the time. If your car is running slow or feels different trust me get the update. I donít know what update was done because my sound system sounds amazing also. Before it was horrible and now itís sounds amazing.
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Thanks for the feedback, it sounds very encouraging! My only reservation is that my Kizashi is one of the early ones (2010/11 build I think), and I wonder if the dealer will say that the update is only for the 2012!
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My 2012 SX4 has the same RPM change when I least want it!!! Right at 20 mph like some others have said. Then when I press on the gas to compensate, it rev's too high. What an annoyance! Mine doesn't shake when the engine lugs down but its still just not right.

I just want smooth acceleration without having to play games with the gas pedal to do it.

I can only assume that this SQ CVT update (is that what I ask for?) will work for my SX4. If your dealer found the update then it must be available to other dealers as well?
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