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Old 11-28-2010, 07:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best way to increase the wheel base

anybody knows what is the best as well as cheapest way to increase the wheelbase of a jimny?
1. put wheel spacers
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2. put wider tires

im worried if i put wheel spacers, there might be wobbling or steering problems...
please help...
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There are two options for you, Spacers or a decreased backspacing on the rims. If you use a quality set of bolt on spacers then you won't have any wobbling or steering issues. The problem is that a good set of bolt on spacers costs almost as much as a cheap set of rims with a tight backspacing. If you go with a small backspacing you will get a deeper looking rim that has a more aggressive appearance but it will mean that you will need to get a set of tires for the new rims.

A wider stance will make the vehicle more stable at higher speeds, and it will help it corner more flat at lower speeds. It will decrease the turn radius, but with the turn radius already so rediculously small you will still turn tighter than most cars on the road even with a wider stance.

Unless you are running on soft sand or on snow, you don't need a wide tire. The extra rotational mass and the friction of the widened foot print are harder for the engine to manage, harder for the breaks to stop, and they actually provide less traction on a hard surface. If you want to widen the stance, use spacers or a rim with more backspacing.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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tHANKs for the reply Baratacus...

do u think the bolts which they sell together with the spacer in eBay enough to prevent wobbling and steering problems? the spacer + bolts set costs around USD 190 for 4 spacers + bolts...

i think it is more expensive to buy new rims (5 rims including spare) and tires...
do u have any idea how much would these cost?
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They run about 56 dollars U.S. / each. so geting 5 (spare) will cost you more than the spacers. once you get the tires and the rims and do the mounting and balancing, the cost of new rims is MUCH more expensive than spacers. If you were in the market for new tires, then I would recommend getting the rims while you were at it, but if you're tires are in good shape and you don't intend to upgrade to a wider tire then the spacers are better.

Or the super cheep method, Something to keep in mind. The rim is offset with the bolt holes 1 inch to the outside of the centerline. if you have the spoked style rims with the keystone shaped holes encircling the hub, the spokes are flat vertical and the rim can be mounted inside out. This will increase your stance by 1" on each side without any spacers or aftermarket rims. If you have the later style rims with the round holes encircling the hub then you can not flip the wheel.
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wheelbase is the distance between the front and back wheels. Track is the distance from one tire to the other on the front or back.
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What model Jimny? UK Jimnys never came with spoked wheels but SJ rims fit.
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The skinny width is the best thing!
The Suzuki isnt as wide as the other trucks ruts so it doesnt get bellied all the time

Dont you guys usually put jeep axles under yours?
Jeeps are pretty expensive over here so thats not really an option,
Im playing with an idea of putting Toyota Prado axles under mine, so I get the coil springs as well, and maybe the electric locker
That is, if the rev limiter in the passenger seat will let me....
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Over where? what we in the UK call the Jimny, the SN413, wasn't sold in the US and Jeep parts are extremely rare here too.
Widening the track a couple of inches won't make the overall width any more, 7 x 15 rims with 215 tyres are quite common over here and were sold as a Suzuki aftermarket option, they still fit within the stock arches.
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great advise mate...
i think i will go for 2" spacers, since my tires are still new...

in the future when my tires are worn out, i would like to fit in a wider tire.
Anybody knows what is the largest and widest tire that i could fit in a stock Jimny (2010 model) without the need for lifts?...




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They run about 56 dollars U.S. / each. so geting 5 (spare) will cost you more than the spacers. once you get the tires and the rims and do the mounting and balancing, the cost of new rims is MUCH more expensive than spacers. If you were in the market for new tires, then I would recommend getting the rims while you were at it, but if you're tires are in good shape and you don't intend to upgrade to a wider tire then the spacers are better.

Or the super cheep method, Something to keep in mind. The rim is offset with the bolt holes 1 inch to the outside of the centerline. if you have the spoked style rims with the keystone shaped holes encircling the hub, the spokes are flat vertical and the rim can be mounted inside out. This will increase your stance by 1" on each side without any spacers or aftermarket rims. If you have the later style rims with the round holes encircling the hub then you can not flip the wheel.
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Hey Mof...why did you say that skinny width is good?
isn't it more prone to bellying over?





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The skinny width is the best thing!
The Suzuki isnt as wide as the other trucks ruts so it doesnt get bellied all the time

Dont you guys usually put jeep axles under yours?
Jeeps are pretty expensive over here so thats not really an option,
Im playing with an idea of putting Toyota Prado axles under mine, so I get the coil springs as well, and maybe the electric locker
That is, if the rev limiter in the passenger seat will let me....
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