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Old 01-23-2013, 04:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Lets us know how you eventually go - good luck!
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have another couple of question regarding this thing: Because I am on a pension with no other source of income, its going to take a while before I can save enough to have the problem diagnosed and fixed. My questions follow:

1) Will the car eventually just refuse to start as a result of the CAS issue? (assuming that's what it is). I am currently avoiding driving the car at all, if I can, and am only doing short trips, because I am terrified that I will get stuck somewhere and it won't start at all, after its had a 30-40 minute rest... Just not wanting to go too far from home. But I'm sure that sitting in the garage isnt doing it much good, either. *and* I am going stir crazy, being stuck at home most of the time.

2) Are there other known issues with the Ignis that I could prepare for by having them fixed before they go bang?

3) Are there things *I* could do which might help, instead of having a mechanic do them? Simple things, I mean... I am advancing in years, and am not particularly healthy or spry, so anything that involves great strength or flexibility is out.
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My questions follow:

1) Will the car eventually just refuse to start as a result of the CAS issue? (assuming that's what it is).
No one can answer that for you on the net - as far as I know


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2) Are there other known issues with the Ignis that I could prepare for by having them fixed before they go bang?
Talk to a wrecker/breaker that does Suzuki (at a quiet time) - they know what parts sell the best


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3) Are there things *I* could do which might help, instead of having a mechanic do them? Simple things, I mean...
Sounds like you have plenty of time, so you could meticulously reset all the plugs to everything in the engine bay - it may removing covers and stuff. You might even find the CAS and replace it.

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No one can answer that for you on the net - as far as I know
I was hopeful but not desperately so

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Good idea, I'll have a ring around on Wednesday

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Sounds like you have plenty of time, so you could meticulously reset all the plugs to everything in the engine bay - it may removing covers and stuff. You might even find the CAS and replace it.
Yeah I have time, its enforced through lack of funding. I'll be becoming acquainted with the buses too, next week, rather than risk having a breakdown on the way to a medical appointment
Thanks so much for the diagram, there may be some things I can do to help myself as a result and that would be most excellent.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:47 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well, I tried really hard to get to the Suzuki Service dept, to talk to someone about the car (I based my expectation on a $500 cost and will have sufficient funds by next week, to get the job done) ... so anyway, do you think I could find *anywhere* to actually bring my car into the service yard? BAH! Decided to ring them when I got back home (I had had to be in the vicinity for something else so no, didnt make a special trip) and then the blasted car carked it on the way home. Right then and there I decided to take it to my own mechanic and get a quote for repairing both Crank and Cam angle sensors. $320. Getting it done next week.
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Let's hope it fixes the problem. These mysterious conking-out issues ARE a real bastard, but all you can do is keep at it. Good luck with it!
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Just done a bit more thinking on this and (don't know if I mentioned this before) it reminds me of my Buik engine and wiring harness. It would conk-out often with no power to ignition at all. Crank with starter, but nothing. When it cooled down a few hours later, it would fire-up and run for a couple of weeks before doing it again.

I replaced the Crank Angle Sensor four times in 5 years.

In the end, it was a corroded wire (main positive to ignition module) in the harness plug. i now have three spare good CAS's in my shed! I continued to drive that car with same problem for another seven years. All I had to do was wiggle the plug to fix the problem to get going straight away.

That was years ago, but recently, I had an issue with a Bosch Hydro Power instant hot water system. It was doing a similar thing to above, run for 10 mins, then stop heating the water. Next day, it worked again, but same thing happened! The Hydro hot water system uses water flowing through a pipe inside an inline electric generator that supplies voltage to power a module to create a spark and open a gas valve.

It was also a corrosion issue in the plug from the generator to module.

Something to think about!

Changing sensors in a car may only be fixing a problem with corrosion in a plug for the short term. Then the problem reappears because only half the plug was replaced and in the case of my Buik engine, the original sensor was not faulty and the corrosion was in another plug I didn't touch. By the time I had replaced the sensor, the engine and wiring was cold and it went again.

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LOL> I suspect this is exactly what will happen to me. Murphy rides on my shoulder. However, one has to begin somewhere, and corrosion, without inspecting the entire electrical system is something one will have to deal with, down the track, in any case. I just hope this fixes it. if not, then... I guess I'll be having the mechanics do exactly that.
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LOL> I suspect this is exactly what will happen to me. Murphy rides on my shoulder. However, one has to begin somewhere, and corrosion, without inspecting the entire electrical system is something one will have to deal with, down the track, in any case. I just hope this fixes it. if not, then... I guess I'll be having the mechanics do exactly that.
Reporting in. so far so good. Mechanic, interestingly, had had 4 other vehicles (not Suzuki) over Summer with identical issues to mine, and in every case it was either the crank or cam angle sensors. The Honda he was doing the day I talked to him about it the first time was there to have its Crank Angle Sensor replaced. The two days later back to have the other done, because the first was not the issue at all (or it may always have been both).

Mechanic says they use a scanner, and when it says that its the crank, its just as likely to be the cam... or vice versa. Anyway, if something else happens (and I don't quite trust it yet, if I ever do again) I've told the mechanic he will be going over the entire electrical system with a fine tooth comb and fixing all corroded points and dodgy bits and pieces.

I can't believe I am saying this but I am thinking of selling it
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:20 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If it's reliable now, then I wouldn't, unless you can get car yard money for it.

Then you might be buying another second hand car with issues - or you could get a bike?
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