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Old 08-11-2011, 05:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Timing Belt Tensioner - 06 Forenza

Hello - new here - I've been reading and have found the procedure for changing the timing belt. Looks pretty straightforward - thanks guys for posting the procedure/pages from the manual.

I'm trying to order parts and I'm looking around online and have come up with a puzzle regarding the timing belt tensioner...

RockAuto lists two parts:
"Idler" (DNJ #TBT319A) ($19.40)
"Bearing" (DNJ #TBT319) ($55.79) Both combined = $75.19

O'Reilly, Autozone, etc lists one "Timing Belt Tensioner"
O'Reilly - Gates #T43040 ($128.99)
Autozone - Duralast 305331 ($82.99)

I normally buy what I can from RockAuto, but the listing of the two items has me puzzled. I've never saw that when buying T-belt tensioners from them before. Anybody got any ideas? I'd like to get the stuff ordered and I'm not sure if I need the "bearing", "idler", or BOTH? Not sure why they are shown separate at RockAuto and nowhere else. Any ideas?

Any info will be greatly appreciated - I'm running on borrowed time on this T-belt and need to get it changed!

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Nobody has any ideas? I see there has been 16 views, but no responses. Hopefully someone will come up with something, because I'd like to get the parts here by next weekend.

Help is needed! Thanks in advance.
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Call the local dealership and ask the service department. They might be able to help. Some are resistant, but some treat it as a professional courtesy to explain things like that. Good luck!
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The timing belt "kit" from RockAuto indicates that it comes with both tensioners, so I'd assume that is what you'll need.

Timing Belt Component Kit
DNJ ENGINE COMPONENTS Part # TBK319A Includes Belt TB319A and Tensioners TBT319 and TBT319A (2) $102.79

2006 SUZUKI FORENZA Timing Belt Component Kit
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it depends what your looking to replace. you need the tensioner and usually you should do the water pump because your in there already. the belt runs areound the tensioner and 2 pullys. some of the cars have been mking unessisary noise that people have found is comming from the pullys which can be solved by getting new ones. on rockauto.com they either have a kit with the belt tensioner and idler pullys #tbk319a or here are the part number for the tensioner tbt319 and idler pullys tbt319a (you need 2 idler pullys) then you need the belt and water bump if your going to change that also. hope this helps clear things up.
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Good morning,

The part that our catalog calls the bearing is the one you are referring to as the tensioner. The idlers are separate parts. It appears that your engine uses two identical idler pulleys, in addition to the tensioner pulley. The parts can be purchased separately, or we sell them as a kit, which includes the tensioner, two idlers, and the timing belt. Feel free to place an order online, or contact us if you need further assistance.

Thank you,

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The above is from RockAuto - sounds correct to me. O'Reilly, etc doesn't show the "idlers", at least obviously, up-front. They simply show the tensioner. So, I think I'll just order the part that RockAuto calls the "bearing". That is, unless someone chimes in and says that I need the two idlers also. When looking at ebay at "timing belt kits", they have some with two idlers and a tensioner, and some with only the tensioner.

As I said, if anyone has any good advice/direct experience with this, and thinks I should install the two idlers as well, then please chime in and let me know. I would like to do this job once only.

Also, FYI: I plan on changing the water pump when I'm in there, because I've done enough of them to know that doing both at the same time is a good idea (although, this engine looks much easier to change the timing belt on than most). Also, I'm going to change the serp belt, since it's probably due. Unrelated, but I'm also going to change the valve cover gasket, because the plugs are swimming in oil in the recesses.
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Here is a diagram of your engine. The parts are all laid out for you to pick and choose what you need.

1) CYLINDER HEAD 2) HEAD GASKET 3) VALVE COVER
4) VALVE COVER GASKET 5) INTAKE VALVE 6) EXHAUST VALVE
7) VALVE SPRING SEATS 8) VALVE SEALS 9) VALVE SPRINGS
10) VALVE SPRING RETAINERS 11) VALVE KEEPER 12) VALVE LIFTERS
13) INTAKE VALVE GUIDE 14) EXHAUST VALVE GUIDES 15) INTAKE CAMSHAFT
16) EXHAUST CAMSHAFT 17) OIL SEAL 18) CAMSHAFT GEAR
19) CRANKSHAFT GEAR 20) TIMING BELT 21) FRONT COVER
22) FRONT COVER GASKET 23) TENSIONER 24) IDLER PULLEY
25) PISTON RING SET 26) PISTON 27) PISTON PIN
28) CONNECTING ROD 29) BEARING SET 30) BEARING SET
31) CRANKSHAFT 32) REAR MAIN SEAL 33) PULLEY
34) FRONT CRANK SEAL 35) OIL PAN 36) OIL PAN BAFFLE
37) OIL PUMP 38) OIL PICK-UP 39) GASKET



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Hey, thanks a lot for the schematic. That'll come in handy.

Would you know the torque for the valve cover bolts? I think that's the only thing I don't have at this point.

I'm still undecided on the two idlers for the timing belt - does anyone know if it's common practice to replace the idlers? I'm not sure what the convention is...

Thanks.
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Did you read my post above? I gave you all the info you need plus all the rockauto part numbers and the reasons why to change the idler pulleys. If you have the money chnge them there pretty inexpensive. Also it might not be as simple as you think some people have had trouble with getting the tensioner pulley installed right.
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7-even: Sorry man - I either missed your post or it didn't post immediately (which is probably highly unlikely). Sorry. Unfortunately, to confirm that I didn't see it, I ordered all of the stuff and didn't order the idlers. I hope it doesn't bite me later...

I could still use the torque for the valve cover if anybody has that info...

Thanks, and I would almost swear that your (7-even) post did not show up until a day or two ago...just doesn't make any sense, and it's above my later posts in the thread, so I know it's impossible. Sorry - I'm usually more observant than that!
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