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Old 05-20-2009, 07:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 1998 Esteem Wagon GLX 1.6L (LEFT hand steering, just like the U.S.). Is the Brake system of the Esteem the DIAGONAL split system ("X") or the old Front-Back split system?

The reason i asked is that i plan on changing brake fluid and bleeding the brake system as well. So do i start bleeding from the brake farthest from the Master Cylinder and finally to the brake closest to the M/C, thus in order: REAR Right-REAR Left-FRONT Right-FRONT Left?

OR, if its a DIAGONAL split system, do i do the ff in order: REAR Right-FRONT Left-REAR Left-FRONT Right. What does SUZUKI recommend? THANK YOU!
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know what Suzuki recommends but I did mine farthest to nearest, I don't think its that critical.
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It does not really matter that much, the correct sequence will use the least amount of fluid that's all.
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I just thought i`d do what was "best". Apparently it doesnt matter much. THANKS guys!
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I just thought i`d do what was "best". Apparently it doesnt matter much. THANKS guys!
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It does matter.......start at the farthest wheel from the master cylinder like Isuzu said. Of course if you didnt let any out it doesnt matter unless your replacing a wheel cylinder or a caliper. You should be able to do a brake job without letting any air into the system. Also unless your brake fluid is contaminated(like you have no cap on your master cylinder) you should never have to "replace" your brake fluid. Replacing the brake fluid is NOT going to make your car stop any better.

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REBELPC- I replace my brake fluid once a year because its just a DOT3, so its hygroscopic, and 85% HUMIDITY is common in this here tropics!

I figure there isnt any harm in replacing most of the brake fluid by just bleeding the old fluid away so i get the assurance (call me obsessive compulsive if you will) of an air free brake system. I sometimes think about emptying out the Master cylinder not just from the reservoir but using compressed air to push out the little bit of fluid left inside the M/C out where the hard brake lines attach to the M/C. But then i dont know how easy or hard it is to bleed the M/C itself (since its already 11 yrs old).

I normally use the conventional bleeding sequence on my other even much older car but just thought i`d follow factory recommendations for whatever its worth(?)
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REBELPC- I replace my brake fluid once a year because its just a DOT3, so its hygroscopic, and 85% HUMIDITY is common in this here tropics!

I figure there isnt any harm in replacing most of the brake fluid by just bleeding the old fluid away so i get the assurance (call me obsessive compulsive if you will) of an air free brake system. I sometimes think about emptying out the Master cylinder not just from the reservoir but using compressed air to push out the little bit of fluid left inside the M/C out where the hard brake lines attach to the M/C. But then i dont know how easy or hard it is to bleed the M/C itself (since its already 11 yrs old).

I normally use the conventional bleeding sequence on my other even much older car but just thought i`d follow factory recommendations for whatever its worth(?)
LOL you do what you want, I lived in South Florida that IS the tropics and now I live in the Pacific Northwest rain 9 months a year.......Ive never worried about it......
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Brake fluid absorbs moisture, its very hygroscopic, moisture rusts the insides of the brake system, it can turn to steam at the wheels under braking, that in turn causes mushy braking. Heat also breaks down the fluid over time.

I have seen it many times, the fluid will be the dirtiest at the wheels were you can't see it. Bleed it into a glass jar, you will see.
Brake fluid id like any other fluid, it wears out.

Patrick, DO NOT use compressed air in the brakes system, you will only make it worse, just bleed it until the fluid looks clean at the wheels.
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ISUZUZUKI MAN- I do in fact use a clear jar when bleeding to check for air bubbles and fluid condition. Years ago i had used compressed air on what was then a 25 year old car and got problems bleeding the m/c and had to bring it to a shop for bench bleeding (especially as the seals were that OLD!).

So i was hoping the esteem m/c would be easier to bleed (?) as it is a newer car. I`l just take your advice not to do the compressed air bit. THANK YOU! patrick
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