Originally posted by ShadowDog@Apr 23 2006, 11:14 AM That's mostly correct, that ABS simply prevents lockup of any particular wheel so that control is retained for stopping. The difference is that most people don't understand the concept of threshold braking, so the time it would take them to modulate their braking efforts would take considerably longer to effectively stop on slippery surfaces.
I'm thinking F1 may not have ABS...but they do have traction control. From what I've read, FIA simply gave up trying to police it. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't have it.
the thing that pissed me off the most about the reno, was when i bought it a year ago, about two months late there debut, not one on the market came with abs. yet it was a clearly marked option. the dealership did a search, results came back and only two nation wide had abs. now im not so sure on the amount after my purchase that were made with abs, but i felt a bit screwed that i couldn't buy the abs, and for obvious reasons the dealership could not have the system intalled. long story short i still bought the car. to tell you the truth though i wish i could have gotten the lx with leather, the automatic, and abs. not that im not happy with the manual ex, ive just gotten lazy.
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I agree, when buying this Optra5, some optioned-up models were just plain scarce. It seems the initial majority shipment of cars in March of '04 was made up of low-optioned versions; however, virtually all of them had automatic transmissions. It was perplexing to figure out why the ones I would be interested in were over 500 kms away, and in the wrong color. It all worked out to my benefit in the end by taking their showroom model; however, I still left without ABS anyway.
It shouldn't have been a surprise; however, because in at least three review articles in print and online had mentioned that ABS equipped versions were hard to find. Unless you build one up and wait three months for it, for the most part, they still are hard to find.
there are several methods but light and steady is good for most anything. emergencies refer to stab braking where you stomp down until its starts to lock up then let off then back on em this used to be pushed to keep your brakes from overheating with the idea of more air flow to cool them and using stab to get below intended speed by about 5 mph and stab when at desired speed I like a combination the two based on conditions
Ice? slow steady (all that pumping abs does can lose traction) keep your speed way down in bad conditions I like to be the last to have to touch the brake pedal and if i am the last in a group I know that I was manageing speed properly
dont forget the engine does a great job in assisted stopping
If you find you're locking the brakes you are following too close give yourself a cushion to react in and use sudden steering movements only when calm controlled wont be enough but enertia will still rule the outcome
5-6 seconds in a car will save you from an accident I know they say what is it now 3 seconds following dist
let me drop my couch in the next lane ahead abit in traffic and watch the swerving and smoking rubber. Truth is 4-5 might still leave less than a foot when you come to rest behind the car your following. this too close for comfort feel your heartbeat racing thats what says if it was not enough
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I don't have ABS, and I would rather keep it that way. In one case, I would rather have my breaks lock up when or if I had to slam them to avoid an accident than them giving. Plus I don't get that much snow around here anyway.
Originally posted by Melissa22@Jun 8 2006, 12:25 PM I don't have ABS, and I would rather keep it that way. In one case, I would rather have my breaks lock up when or if I had to slam them to avoid an accident than them giving. Plus I don't get that much snow around here anyway.
The point of ABS is to keep them at thepoint right before lock up so theres no slide, and you brake quicker then if they do. I just also see it as one more thing that can fail in a car.
Originally posted by Melissa22@Jun 8 2006, 04:25 PM I don't have ABS, and I would rather keep it that way. In one case, I would rather have my breaks lock up when or if I had to slam them to avoid an accident than them giving. Plus I don't get that much snow around here anyway.
ABS can be useful tho, especially in winter (my area gets snow/ice/slush/sleet/rain/etc lol). Its nice to be able to have it do the "pumping the brakes" for you, and it can do it MUCH faster than your foot could, thus leaving your full attention to trying to steer the car when its slipping.
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Originally posted by Melissa22@Jun 8 2006, 01:25 PM I don't have ABS, and I would rather keep it that way. In one case, I would rather have my breaks lock up when or if I had to slam them to avoid an accident than them giving. Plus I don't get that much snow around here anyway.
Uh unless your a stunt driver, which I doubt (From your use name you seem to be a girl and there are very few female stunt druvers). You do not want your brakes to lock up on you. If they lock up you may spin out of control. You may also damage your rotors warping them from heat or bending the our of alignment. You also wear down your pads and tires a lot when you lock up.
Originally posted by dog@Jun 11 2006, 03:51 AM There is alot of things race cars of all kinds don't or can't have but that is due to racing is ment to be a challenge.
i haven't driven a car with ABS, and i have yet to lock my brakes on accident...i had powerslot rotors with hawk pads on my '97 Mirage(stock calipers) and i could slam the brakes at any speed up to about 60mph and it wouldnt lock them up. i havent looked for them yet, but i'd love to have them on my reno. i'd rather have high performance rotors/pads/calipers and a well controlled foot than have ABS
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