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Old 01-24-2007, 07:19 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Forenza weight is 2701
Reno weight is 2739

according to Suzuki..

So they would be the aprox same 1/4 mile time/speed


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Thats right. Smaller tires will make it sat a faster speed!


Edit: Car and Driver shows the Reno doing a 16.9sec @ 81MPH 1/4 mile. The Forenza is much lighter and can possably to a 88MPH 1/4 mile
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amazing since it has a 112 mph speed limiter on because of the non speed rated tires. If you 'saw' 120 your speedo is off..

so basically it does not matter what the OP did to his car it can only do 112.. if you don't believe me check out the C&D test of a 5 speed one...

Performance &#8212 2007 Suzuki Reno Base — Yahoo! Autos

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Suzuki Reno Automobile Review Gayot



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I have gotten my Reno before I did anything to it to 120 MPH on a freeway. But it took a long as time to get there, and when I did the car was not handling it that well so I backed off.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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amazing since it has a 112 mph speed limiter on because of the non speed rated tires. If you 'saw' 120 your speedo is off..

so basically it does not matter what the OP did to his car it can only do 112.. if you don't believe me check out the C&D test of a 5 speed one...

Performance &#8212 2007 Suzuki Reno Base — Yahoo! Autos

and here..

Suzuki Reno Automobile Review Gayot
Sorry, but I know I had gotten my Forenza over 112. My speedo is also on. The tire diamiter is still stock, and I have no reason to beleave that it is so far off, that I can see 120, and only be doing 112. Never had anything limit my speed except my Rev limiter, that pops at 6.3 to 6.5K RPMs. Even your fellow moderator, and Forenza Guru, Kinkyllama has had speed claims over 112. Where Gayot got there info on top speed, and its limiting factor is unknown to me, or the rest of the Forenza Reno comunity.
Jurupa was able to get his Reno over 112, and that was before he installen his springs, on stock tires, with out even an ounce of extra added. Leave the "what the forenza/reno can do" to the guys driving it. We already know the origonal claim was false, posably do to driver miss read, or what not. No need to tell us what the car can and can not do

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Sorry, but I know I had gotten my Forenza over 112. My speedo is also on. The tire diamiter is still stock, and I have no reason to beleave that it is so far off, that I can see 120, and only be doing 112. Never had anything limit my speed except my Rev limiter, that pops at 6.3 to 6.5K RPMs. Even your fellow moderator, and Forenza Guru, Kinkyllama has had speed claims over 112. Where Gayot got there info on top speed, and its limiting factor is unknown to me, or the rest of the Forenza Reno comunity.
Jurupa was able to get his Reno over 112, and that was before he installen his springs, on stock tires, with out even an ounce of extra added. Leave the "what the forenza/reno can do" to the guys driving it. We already know the origonal claim was false, posably do to driver miss read, or what not. No need to tell us what the car can and can not do

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/...141_eprint.pdf
Actually its pretty common even if a cars left stock to be far off on the speedo at high speeds....but I know for a fact my car isnt more than 2mph of above 130 cuz I compared the rpms I was at at those speeds to what they should be from calclation. I also know for a fact the older forenzas/renos have no governer but who knows about the 2006+
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amazing since it has a 112 mph speed limiter on because of the non speed rated tires. If you 'saw' 120 your speedo is off..

so basically it does not matter what the OP did to his car it can only do 112.. if you don't believe me check out the C&D test of a 5 speed one...

Performance &#8212 2007 Suzuki Reno Base — Yahoo! Autos

and here..

Suzuki Reno Automobile Review Gayot
Uh a couple of things I have a 2005 Reno and according to Kinky there is no limiter on my car. Two I do not have the stock tires on my car when I hit that speed. From the way the 112 MPH is presented it seems that is the top speed on a stock Reno/Forenza with the stock tires. I may actually have gone 119 MPH even tho I was shown 120 MPH, but to add another counter arguement if our cars where limited to 112 MPH then why would the spedo go up to 140 MPH and not 120 MPH? Because to me that says the car can hit 140 with mods.
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LOL Its 140 so kids like you *think* its faster then it is. Jeeze get a clue guys Its a 130 hp Suzuki 4 door econocar not a race car.
They have always had speed limiters on em since they tires are non speed rated and its a libility nightmare if the car can do more then the tires are rated for and the tires heat up and blow and you crash. Im involved with libel cases all the time. Trust me its 112 mph. No more.. I don't care what the speedo says..


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Uh a couple of things I have a 2005 Reno and according to Kinky there is no limiter on my car. Two I do not have the stock tires on my car when I hit that speed. From the way the 112 MPH is presented it seems that is the top speed on a stock Reno/Forenza with the stock tires. I may actually have gone 119 MPH even tho I was shown 120 MPH, but to add another counter arguement if our cars where limited to 112 MPH then why would the spedo go up to 140 MPH and not 120 MPH? Because to me that says the car can hit 140 with mods.
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Its posible thaton the 06+ that it is, but the 04-05's seem to brake that. You may think its an econocar, but I think you drive an inexspencive small SUV that has very little sport and utility in it. I can claim that itsnot off road suited, and being such, should never see morethen your grass when you clean it. I might be wrong, but its my opinion. Your opinion is just as vallid, but saying where all childeren
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Its 140 so kids like you *think* its faster then it is
turns us right off

Maybe the 06+ is. They switched over to electronic throttel control at that time. All Iknow is my 04 seems more like its rev limited.
ANd if the 06+ is speed limited, well, its all computer, and can be fixed with a good patch Speed limited isnt nesisaraly the end of the world, just an obstical to over come

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LOL Its 140 so kids like you *think* its faster then it is. Jeeze get a clue guys Its a 130 hp Suzuki 4 door econocar not a race car.
They have always had speed limiters on em since they tires are non speed rated and its a libility nightmare if the car can do more then the tires are rated for and the tires heat up and blow and you crash. Im involved with libel cases all the time. Trust me its 112 mph. No more.. I don't care what the speedo says..
Wow its been a long time since someone called me a kid. I fully understand that the United States version of our car is ment to be an econ car. But in Europe it is raced in the WTCC and I believe there is a WTCC version of our car for the streets of Europe. It would help to do some homework you know.

As far as the speed limiter there may be one in the 2006+ models. For the second time I drive a 2005 Reno. The Reno/Forenza models made for the 2006 model year and beyond are not totally the same as mine. And I understand the legal side of things as my uncle works for Yahama and he has to deal with their auto divison a lot. Also my car has 126HP stock, not 130HP. I also stated that when I hit 120 MPH the car was not stable and I backed off when I hit that speed. As the car was semi shaking and could not hold the speed that well. And what I remebered it felt that the suspension and possibly the motor mounts where under more strain that they where ment for. So it was not like I was crusing at 120 no problem.
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Its your tires. You had stock, and there not ment for that. I'm now runnng BF Goodwrench g-Force sports. THey have a V-rating (in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h) and my kuhmos before that also where V-rated. You will notice a difference with some better speed rated tires
The stocks are probably S-rated (112 mph, 180 km/h)
This also seems to fall in with the limiter.
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Its your tires. You had stock, and there not ment for that. I'm now runnng BF Goodwrench g-Force sports. THey have a V-rating (in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h) and my kuhmos before that also where V-rated. You will notice a difference with some better speed rated tires
The stocks are probably S-rated (112 mph, 180 km/h)
This also seems to fall in with the limiter.
Zipp you goof I don't have the stock tires on my car. I have Kumho 769 tires on my car, the same ones I had on when I went up to 120 MPH. I got rid of the stock tires around 15,000 miles on my car. I almost have 28,0000 miles on me car. Part of the reason why my tires are so low is the way I drive, and two they where cheap. I am going to replace them with the Kumho ECSTA ASX which only have V and Z speed ratings. The set I am looking at is V as I am not going to break 130 MPH with the modding I want to do and two why get tires made for Ferrari's when I am not going to even reach those speeds.
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