Upon further googling, seems the original 65 Linc had a 430 that put out 320hp and weighed 5700.
The 430 in³ (7.0 L) engine was produced from 1958 through 1965. It was also used in Ford Thunderbirds and was commonly referred to as the "Bulldozer" of the MEL series engines. The Super Marauder used three two-barrel carburetors. The 430 was bored to 4.30 in (109.2 mm) (similar to the 383) and shared the 3.7 in (94 mm) stroke of the 410.
The compression ratio started at 10.5:1 for 365, 375, and 400 hp (272, 280, and 298 kW), but was reduced to 10.0:1 in less than a year. These 1959 engines produced 345-350 hp (257 to 261 kW), but power was down to 315 hp (235 kW) for 1960.
New pistons and a four-barrel carburetor were added for 1963. 10.1:1 compression brought output back to 345 hp (257 kW).
you guys are really crazy you know that? your reno is not a 15 sec car..lol! someone show me slips from the track with there reno! my friends svt focus was stock running low 15's.. and your talkin 170 or more HP 6 speed! i never wanted to do this but here it is... "sigh"... you praise your cars that are cheap no name garbage! yes i like the renos styling, but its still a fukin suzuki guys! you will not beat a single v8 with a stock reno! you dont seem to read what i wrote my oldsmobile was HUGE! i was beating cav z24's, civic SI's, and plenty of other higher end stock sporty tuners. all of these cars which would dust your dam suzukis i beat with ease! im 25 years old, im not bragging about beating them, they started the races and i just wound up being the winner.. im not lookin for bragging rights here! you guys are really suffering from the delusions that your suzuki is great cause its gearing! news flash, unless the car has restrictors on it, all newer model cars are geared roughly about the same. what makes you think that suzuki is the only car in the compact car class to have good gearing... you think, mitsu,dodge,nissan, etc, dont gear there cars as good if not better then a suzuki? you guys seriously gotta see where im coming from, im not tryin to put your cars down, but instead bring you back to the cold hard harsh reality that suzuki is not some diamond in the rough care maker. they are affordable, stylish, and well equipped for under 13,500 for base! no more guys this site is really getting rediculous!
Stock? Whats that mean, oh yeah. Sorry, not many stock ones here. If its so rediculous, why even bother. You clame BS, and most would. The problems is, you've claimed BS on one or two peopl here that woant lie. Sorry, after just replacing the UD and the Air Intake, I'm sure these guys are for real. When you get'yer reno, go talk to Kinky, he set you up good. You see the trueth
i dont get why this rhyno guy keeps posting in here. it seems that all he wants to do is create drama. it is true that a lot of people like to make shit up, but as from what i've seen, these guys know what they're talking about.
rhyno, have you even ridden in a reno/forenza? i'll admit that my car isn't a rocket, but it definitely isn't slow. my friend has a '00 Civic with V-tec, header, high flow cat, 2 1/4 cat-back to a glass pack, CAI, and dropped 2-3". it is definitely not a slow car. when i first got my car, he drove me over to his place one night cuz i was drunk off my ass and he was surprised at how much it "scoots."
it isnt all about gearing or power or torque or weight. it is a combination of everything. the suspension gets rid of the rolling(which is terrible on our stock cars) and puts more momentum into the wheels. the intake, exhaust, and pulley brings up the power/torque. the pulley also increases the throttle response.
you can take a stock car with 250hp stock and lose to a car with 200hp that is modded up from, lets say, our 125hp stock, especially if the car with 250 is an automatic.
there is a TON of factors that come in when it comes to drag racing. traction, weight, suspension, power, torque, aerodynamics, gearing, and even the drivers themselves.
don't come in here saying that everyone on this forum is full of BS. you weren't there to see it. the people stating the kills aren't showing proof either. what do you want? a photo of a slip at a race track? if i got a hold of a slip, i could fairly easily doctor it to make it look like my dad's 96 suburban pulls 9 secs in the quarter. i don't even know how to use photoshop. i could do it with windows paint, and so could anybody else that has the time and wants to spend the effort.
if you don't want to believe what people say, then don't. if you want to call BS on them, give us numbers that say "hey, that'd be damn near impossible."
i don't care what kind of car you have now or what kind of cars you've had in the past. you don't seem to know as much as the other guys in this forum. they're throwing numbers at you to show you that it could be possible.
maybe the lincon was running the low grade fuel and the reno was running the high grade stuff with octane booster to get extra hp. you don't know all the details of either one of the cars.
don't come in here saying that everyone on this forum is full of BS. you weren't there to see it. the people stating the kills aren't showing proof either. what do you want? a photo of a slip at a race track? if i got a hold of a slip, i could fairly easily doctor it to make it look like my dad's 96 suburban pulls 9 secs in the quarter. i don't even know how to use photoshop. i could do it with windows paint, and so could anybody else that has the time and wants to spend the effort.
Not like the Turbo vans that pull 12 second 1/4 miles *whistels* THes guys usaly just dump a couple K in theres.
Trust me, in Photoshop, I could make it look like he used warp engines, including the picture of the 'Burban to prove it. *Green skinned alien chick optional!
The reno will not benifit from a higher octaine. The question in, Has AK doesn the normal mods, like the Pully, CAI, or Cat Back.
His profile does say hehas a 2.25 cat back and a short ram intake. That adds up to 15 HP, but is probably 10
Not like the Turbo vans that pull 12 second 1/4 miles *whistels* THes guys usaly just dump a couple K in theres.
Trust me, in Photoshop, I could make it look like he used warp engines, including the picture of the 'Burban to prove it. *Green skinned alien chick optional!
The reno will not benifit from a higher octaine. The question in, Has AK doesn the normal mods, like the Pully, CAI, or Cat Back.
His profile does say hehas a 2.25 cat back and a short ram intake. That adds up to 15 HP, but is probably 10
*Alien chick extra
Guys, this guy is clearly a troll and should be treated as such. Don't feed the trolls...lol
AK is probably running about 15-20 HP over stock. Remember, he has much cooler air up there, so that 10-15 becomes 15-20. NOTHING we say.....NOTHING is going to stop this guy rhyno from posting crap.
Best way to handle him is to ignore him and let him bury himself with his attitude. He'll get banned soon enough for not keeping it civil.
Oh and BTW, our cars can pull 15.6 in the 1/4. The formula is right there. I didn't make it up dude. Anyone who doesn't agree with that site should e-mail the scientists that created those formulas and yell at them.
The 430 in³ (7.0 L) engine was produced from 1958 through 1965. It was also used in Ford Thunderbirds and was commonly referred to as the "Bulldozer" of the MEL series engines. The Super Marauder used three two-barrel carburetors. The 430 was bored to 4.30 in (109.2 mm) (similar to the 383) and shared the 3.7 in (94 mm) stroke of the 410.
The compression ratio started at 10.5:1 for 365, 375, and 400 hp (272, 280, and 298 kW), but was reduced to 10.0:1 in less than a year. These 1959 engines produced 345-350 hp (257 to 261 kW), but power was down to 315 hp (235 kW) for 1960.
New pistons and a four-barrel carburetor were added for 1963. 10.1:1 compression brought output back to 345 hp (257 kW).
5700 lbs at 345 hp = 15.211
Still about a 1/2 second difference. That could be decided on launch alone.
Let's not forget that with a 5700 lb car he's probably going to spin the wheels a bit. Advantage - Reno in that case.
well he pulls up next to me and i hear him hit it right after i do. thing was so loud i thought my ears were gona break.
Well the lincoln was a very quite ride, so if the ears were gona break I would say he had at least a set of headers,unless the lincoln was a total piece of crap and needed an exhaust.
So if he had a header add 20hp
Now the thread did say a 454..lot of work to stick a chevy in a ford but it can be done..lil history on chevy big blocks..
Chevy Production Big Blocks
The Chevy big block was introduced in 1965 with a 396 cid Mark IV engine developed from the 1963 Datona mystery engine. The engine was basically developed as an answer to the highly successful GTO with its 389 cid engine introduced in 1964. The 396 was first offered in the Chevelle at 375 HP, in the full size Chevy as 325 and 425 HP versions and in the Corvette with up to 425 HP. In 1966 the 396 was bored out to 4.250" producing a 427 cid engine. The 427 was offered in the 1967 Impala SS rated at 385 HP and in the Corvette it was first offered in 1966 and was uprated with 3-2 bbl carburetors to 435 HP for 1967.
In 1967 the L88 427 was also provided in approximately 20 Corvettes with an advertised HP of 430 but actually producing in excess of 550 HP. The L88 required minimum 95 octane gas to avoid possible damage to the engine and was meant to be strictly for racing. 1970 saw introduction of a stroked 427 resulting in a 454 cid engine. The 454 was offered in the 1970 Impala, Chevelle SS, El Camino SS and Monte Carlo SS in a 360 HP version and in the Chevelle and El Camino SS in a 450 HP version. The 1970 Corvette LS-6 was offered with the 390 HP 454 cid engine. 1970 also ushered in the 402 cid engine which was also known as the 396 in some Chevys and the big block 400 in others. In the 1970 Camaro SS, Chevelle SS and Nova SS the 402 cid engine with 375 HP was known as the 396 and the cars carried the 396 badge. From 1970 to 1972 the 402, 454, 465 and 495 cid engines were introduced.
So stock it was either 360 hp 390hp or 450 hp.. Im gonna assume 360hp and add a header..so that lincoln was around 380hp or so. That setup is loud enuff to be ear hurting..or sweet music depending on the ear.
As the old saying goes..aint no subsitute for cubic inches.
last thing, ide like to know who runs this site. because you guys are the ones saying "who does this guy rhyno think he is" also that imma "troll". im right here boys! im talking to you personally and yout refering to me like im not here! thats actually more rude then ive been to any of you. why would you even think about doctoring up slips? are all you guys 18? and dont tell me that i dont know what im talking about! you guys started out telling me how "we all do are racing at high speeds, screw 1/4 mile" seriously guys a couple of bolt on access. that give you tops 20hp is nothing in the quarter mile! your not shaving seconds off! this thread was created by someone who said a linc. has a built 454 (CHEVY) motor in it and he smoked
him. also i doubt this linc. guy just decided to throw a stock454 in his car.. its worked probably pushin around 400-500 hp! so its stock 1/4 mile times, although it still beats your suzuki, is not the correct time. its probably a 12 sec. car! and to whoever ask why i keep posting is because when i end a discussion with some facts, someone decides they need to add more BS fuel to the fire! im an adult and im not looking for arguments or drama. i have drivin a reno and a forenza.. the reno was auto and the forenza was stick.they do get up and go, but so does a kia spectra, a nissan 1.8L, etc. your cars with your UD pulley and CAI and whatever other bolt on 5hp mod you put on it, is still only pushing around 140 hp... i dont know what kinda HP these cars have to the wheels, but i know at the dealer they say it has 126 hp, so that would mean that number is not to the wheels. ide say these cars with all your bolt on is still pushing under 130 to the wheels.
PS. ANYTHING IM SAYING IS NOT, AND I REPEAT IS NOT TO INSTAGATE ANY OF YOU! I AM MATURE ENOUGH TO NOT START "DRAMA" OVER A DISCUSSION SO INSUGNIFICANT. ANYTHING I SAY IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH CARS. IVE OWNED 26 IN MY 8 YEARS OF DRIVING AND FEEL THAT MY KNOWLEDGE OF AUTOMOBILES IS DEFINTLY EXCEPTIONAL.
I agree with rhyno here guys...and by the way i drive an 05 reno so im speaking from experience. Any car pushing 500hp would absolutely dominate a reno even in high end rpms...next time this phenomenon happens it should be caught on video and posted in the forums. I mean i have been just messing around in my car and raced old 94-95 accords and beaten them sure...but no CAI or UD pulley would make my car fast enough to beat a car with that much power
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