Originally posted by Zipper@May 4 2006, 04:52 PM Becareful of the Chevy Astros. THey are wicked lowend touque, atleast for a minivan. My parents have one, and I can turn heads as this van hauls past.
I have read stories about people raceing vans. They are funny as heck, but it makes me wonder why would a car maker put power into a van.
masterbiscuit - You also forgot the other part of your physics equation which would intel the bottom part of the SUV. When you rasie a SUV you get air under the car as well. This air tends to move faster than the rest of the air around the SUV. When this air hits the air that is getting restance you get various effects going on. Most of the effects would happen in the back or near the back of the SUV. And FYI I have never taken a physics class in my life and yet I know exactly what your talking about as the same thing applies to air planes which I learned about in mesums.
Originally posted by jurupa@May 4 2006, 09:48 PM I have read stories about people raceing vans. They are funny as heck, but it makes me wonder why would a car maker put power into a van.
WHy would you put power into a van? Why put power in a truck or car for that matter. The Astro is the largest Minivan there is. The next size up is a full size. You know, seats 10+. Its a truck frame, with a lage inline four (yep, a 4) with monsterious tourque for a vehical of its type. Its ment to work, hence why alot of them are used as work vans.
jurupa, you should get exactly how hard this part is. My dad took it over the grapevine, in sumer, with the AC on full, hauling 7 people and the lugage we needed for a week, doing 80 in cruise control. Took it like it was nothing, and the water temp barly budged I also have to say, its a beefy cooling system on that van.
When I can afford it (if I ever can) I'll drag race a F250 diesel. You can make a pretty good amount of power out of them cheap. My brothers 03ish makes 525tq and 3--hp stock. Sure it weights alot.. but does the 1/4mile in 17.3ish which isnt bad.
Originally posted by Zipper@May 5 2006, 02:35 PM WHy would you put power into a van? Why put power in a truck or car for that matter. The Astro is the largest Minivan there is. The next size up is a full size. You know, seats 10+. Its a truck frame, with a lage inline four (yep, a 4) with monsterious tourque for a vehical of its type. Its ment to work, hence why alot of them are used as work vans.
jurupa, you should get exactly how hard this part is. My dad took it over the grapevine, in sumer, with the AC on full, hauling 7 people and the lugage we needed for a week, doing 80 in cruise control. Took it like it was nothing, and the water temp barly budged I also have to say, its a beefy cooling system on that van.
That is pretty impresive engine for a van going over the grape vine. I understand why it would need power, but how much do you really need for a van? A van is use to haul people and what ever you can fit in it around town.
Originally posted by jurupa@May 5 2006, 11:10 PM That is pretty impresive engine for a van going over the grape vine. I understand why it would need power, but how much do you really need for a van? A van is use to haul people and what ever you can fit in it around town.
This van is a workhorse. Not just people. Its cargo and a work vehical. Shoot, I've seen them haul boats. You may not need alot of power for people, but theres a reason why you never saw aerostars as work vans. THey are wimpy.
on the van subject. Do you all watch speeds. chan 114 "pinks"
they had a saffari van with 650hp on motor and 1100 on nos shot 2 stages racing a 1970 camaro with 800 hp with a holly domanitor with 2 speed powerglide and the camaro beat it time and time again.
BTW- the van was a 10.5 second ride. If i find a link to it ill post so you can look at it. NASTY VAN.
ok i found it. The Porshe was the first vs the van but he blowed up his motor.
STATS-Ken Herring vs. Shannon Frye
Ken Herring:
1995 GMC Safari
406 CID small block Chevy
2-stage SpeedTech nitrous system
1050 Holley Dominator carb.
Powerglide transmission
650 hp on motor, 1100 hp on nitrous
29.5 x 10.5w slicks
Shannon Frye:
1979 Porsche 924
283 CID small block Chevy
Powershot 175 hp jet
Holley 750 dual feed carb.
Turbo 350 transmission
313 hp on motor, 488 hp on nitrous
26 x 10.5 Mickey Thompson slicks
Scott Kilbourn:
Make: Chevy
Model: Camaro
Year: 1979
Engine: 516 c.i.
Nitrous: none
Fuel system: 1050 Holley Dominator with Brodix intake
Cylinder Heads: Brodix
Comp. Ratio: 13:1
Suspension: ladder bars and coilovers
Trans: Powerglide
Tires: Hoosier 32 x 14.5 slick
ΒΌ mile: 10 sec.
Hp: 800 hp on motor
Most of the guys building Astro vans are taking advantage of the 4.3 L V6 that comes in them -- same engine that was in my Sonoma. It's big for a 6, and is pretty torquey stock. Guys swap them into Jeeps, etc. It's a good engine, but a little dated.
Good call on the Diesel for drag power. My uncle chipped his, and ... damn. Check out this clip of an 11.42 sec crew cab run. This is what he wants to get to.