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Old 03-13-2006, 02:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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take it from me man please.

Keep it in hold when you race. But if your in hold never ever shift into d. all you do is lose power but i rarely top 120 in 3rd.

here is some good shifting points for you.

1st- lanuch from 2300 rpms or if your moving your best lanuch will be at 25 mph.
when you shift out act like you have a invse clutch. let off and get back on fast so your r's dont drop hardly. when i shift i go from 6100 to 5300. so thats just a ieda for you. 2nd is good until 60-65. after that just keep it in third. D is just a loss in power if you have the hold button on. When i put on my rims and tires ill shoot a video of my car for you.

Kills last night were. Integra,calivier coupe/exhaust/intake. Sxt and rt neons, grand am. almost beat the Gt version. and 1995 eclipse.

im guessing im stting around 150 hp.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I disagree Ibr-Forenza. For one thing I have race with the hold button on and had to go in to D as I was hitting 100 MPH. Granted I have at most 130HP (Stock HP is 126, all I have is a cone air filter so far) so changing gears will be different for me than you, but you do not lose power in D as that is 4th gear in hold mode. Both the Forenza and Reno auto have 4 gears while the manual has 5. If you are losing power in D/4th then its the driver's doing not the car

Secondly changing gears like you discribe is not good for the engine nor tranny. If the car was a manual, then it will be a different story. The best way to get the best gear change without losing to much RPM's is easy up on the gas pedal but still giving the car gas while you change gears. For one thing if you do this right the gear change will not be that jerky and you will hit the mid end of the gear you just change to.

But most of the time when I race I am not using the hold button as I don't need it since most of the racing I do is on the freeway or rolling starts on city streets. Even off the line starts I tend not to unless I feel that I need to which is rare. Granted I don't always win and I tend to race $30,000 plus cars. But you be surprise what cars I can keep up with and beat with my car which is basically stock.
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:15 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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yeh i have. auto is good for shifting out without hold if you do gas right.



ill post some pics of my car soon. Rob.

Also. this question is from the other rob and me. its about the intake boot on top of the throttle body. is there a custom one that we can order that will not leak air or so we dont suck dust down the engine. ill take a picture of what i mean.
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You can control the shift points with the gas pedal, you can downshift with the lever with out hold, and if you lift off the gas while you shift and get right back in it fast you will hit the gas and rev the engine up just before you cause it to slam into gear. Have you ever realy driven a Forenza or what? The shift in hold takes a good 1 1/2 secs which is a life time in the 1/4 mile.
So what competive edge does it have?

How much stress/damage are u really putting on the engine/tranny by shifting like that with an automatic?
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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auctally im really not stressing it. i had my engine checked all gaskets,rings,plugs/injectors. all good. 1 cap full of techron really cleans out your engine. as well for my tranny i have it drained every 5,000 miles and checked.


and i never redline my engine or rev it uslessly. olny when i first had my 2.25 did i rap it out to hear it. Btw- its not good to rev about 3000 rpms still cause you dont have a load on the engine.

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auctally im really not stressing it. i had my engine checked all gaskets,rings,plugs/injectors. all good. 1 cap full of techron really cleans out your engine. as well for my tranny i have it drained every 5,000 miles and checked.
and i never redline my engine or rev it uslessly. olny when i first had my 2.25 did i rap it out to hear it. Btw- its not good to rev about 3000 rpms still cause you dont have a load on the engine.

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Uh why are you draining your tranny every 5,000 miles? I am just asking becuase our trannys are suppose to be maintance free meaning you generally don't need to drain the tranny fuild, not have it check. Also what do you mean by 1 cap of techron? Are you using a gas additive (this is a no no) or oil. Becuase oil changes for our car is between 7,000 to 10,000 miles due to the improvements made in oil and engines.

As far as redlining the car, its fine to and you should when you are racing since our cars get their power from higher RPM's. And at 3,000 RPM's I believe there will be a load on the enigne. but to rev it that high is a no no.
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Also what do you mean by 1 cap of techron? Are you using a gas additive (this is a no no) or oil
Techron is a cleaning aditive from Chevron corp (formerly ChevronTexaco, formerly Chevron {darn name changes}). It is very effective in cleaning deposits and all that junk you get from cheep gasolines, if used on a regular basis. (The oil you might be thinking of is Delo, also Chevron, hence why I mentioned it... might of mixed them up.)
jurupa, you should know this. You live in So Cal! You see the talking car comercials. lol

Anyways, In this case, Instead of adding a cap of techron because you use crappy BP Amaco (Arco) or ExxonMobel (Mobel), buy Chevron. Its a much better quality of gas, and you don't need to worry about those deposits, oh and the particulate matter, sence you seem alittle paranoid.

Disclosure: Yes, I do work for Chevron, in refining actuly, but I got Chevron before I started working their a year ago.
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Techron is a cleaning aditive from Chevron corp (formerly ChevronTexaco, formerly Chevron {darn name changes}). It is very effective in cleaning deposits and all that junk you get from cheep gasolines, if used on a regular basis. (The oil you might be thinking of is Delo, also Chevron, hence why I mentioned it... might of mixed them up.)
jurupa, you should know this. You live in So Cal! You see the talking car comercials. lol
Usually Techron is advertise with gas and not as a seprate thing, hence the reason why I was confused lol.

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Anyways, In this case, Instead of adding a cap of techron because you use crappy BP Amaco (Arco) or ExxonMobel (Mobel), buy Chevron. Its a much better quality of gas, and you don't need to worry about those deposits, oh and the particulate matter, sence you seem alittle paranoid.
I already know that BP Amaco/AM PM/Arco (all three are the same company) meks crappy gas and my gas milage doesn't change that much when I use Chevron or Mobel. Now if I use 76 that is a different story as that seems to make the car go a tad faster for some reason, but then again I never really go past a half a tank since anything past that will most probbaly be over $20 which I refuse to pay for untill I have so much money I don't know what to with it but since I am far from that point I aim for $20 per fill up so I don't have to spend to much money on gas.


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Usually Techron is advertise with gas and not as a seprate thing, hence the reason why I was confused lol.

I already know that BP Amaco/AM PM/Arco (all three are the same company) meks crappy gas and my gas milage doesn't change that much when I use Chevron or Mobel.* Now if I use 76 that is a different story as that seems to make the car go a tad faster for some reason, but then again I never really go past a half a tank since anything past that will most probbaly be over $20 which I refuse to pay for untill I have so much money I don't know what to with it but since I am far from that point I aim for $20 per fill up so I don't have to spend to much money on gas.
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Tad faster from ConicoPhilips? (hence the signs changing to red, from orange. Unical sold it off) Don't see why. Exspecaly if you change companys every fill up. You need something like 5 fill ups to delute whats in your tank to the point that its moot.
Your milage wont change due to the gasoline you use, just the health ofthe engine injectors, cylinders. Thought...Chevron is what the Big three detroit auto use to do the smog requirments on new car types. Have to truckit to Detroit from Kansas. (end company speal)

Techron is sold as an aditive, mostly in states where Chevron isn't sold.

also... Just paying $20 means your at the station more offten? I don't see how this helps realy. $36 to top off or $20 to get it most of the way... I cant see how it'll save money, just get you into to the station more offten
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auctally im really not stressing it. i had my engine checked all gaskets,rings,plugs/injectors. all good. 1 cap full of techron really cleans out your engine. as well for my tranny i have it drained every 5,000 miles and checked.
Just why did you check these components? How did this go about being done?
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