Originally posted by lxAsTrOxl@Mar 11 2006, 08:10 PM No disrespect, but i did test the car out, that car just isnt made to race in stock in general...my friend who had the acura intregra also tested out my car and was driving it just as good if not worse then i was in it and he destroyed me in his manual intregra...my driving skills are pretty good, the car just "sucks" for racing..i know how the car works perfectly fine, i cant control how well it works..i shifted at 80mph from 3rd to D (4) becuz i was already almost at redline at 80mph in 3rd gear. it's not like i wanted to shift on my own.. i HAD too.
Auto's just suck for racing and i found out the hardway last night. next car...MANUAL.
None taken. You can race an auto, but it is not as easy todo. I fogot to mention that I have a cone air filter on my car (There is no legal CAI for my car) which makes 3rd last longer in the 80's. I will agree with you that for the most part the car is not made for racing in stock. If you have any open road or streets that you can drive fast on, take your car on it and drive it like you stoled it. That should put your car into sports mode. The way you know if you are in sports mode is the car is almost or red lineing the gears, and your gas milage goes way down (it loves gas trust me) and you notice that the gears are chaging much later than normal. There is a lot of power in our engines, it is just that the engine is de-tuned and we just have to unlock the power, thats all.
And btw I have beaten a modified Integra with just the cone air filter in my car, granted it was a 1998 or so model but you can win.
Originally posted by jurupa@Mar 11 2006, 09:43 PM None taken. You can race an auto, but it is not as easy todo. I fogot to mention that I have a cone air filter on my car (There is no legal CAI for my car) which makes 3rd last longer in the 80's. I will agree with you that for the most part the car is not made for racing in stock. If you have any open road or streets that you can drive fast on, take your car on it and drive it like you stoled it. That should put your car into sports mode. The way you know if you are in sports mode is the car is almost or red lineing the gears, and your gas milage goes way down (it loves gas trust me) and you notice that the gears are chaging much later than normal. There is a lot of power in our engines, it is just that the engine is de-tuned and we just have to unlock the power, thats all.
And btw I have beaten a modified Integra with just the cone air filter in my car, granted it was a 1998 or so model but you can win.
Thanks man, apperciate the info on that...my car was defiantly in sport mode last night...im around 1,400 miles right now on my car... majority of time i drive like a gramma becuz i dont have a reason to drive fast so the fuzzy logic prolly messed me up..but i was dragging it with the hold button from 1st to 4th. trying to see how it wasdoing... 1st gear in hold...wow...i was impressed how well it did for stock..
But jurupa i have a question..my friends last night said dont shift in my automatic anymore cuz i could mess my transmission up since the 1, 2,3 is for towing really etc etc.. but i tried explaining i had this hold button feature which lets me shift like a "manual" basically but they didnt really understand much bout it since it was the first time they really hurd about it...the question is...do u agree with htem and not shift? or do u agree with me and say its okay to shift when you got the hold button feature on?
As far as the tripnotic (that is what the hold button activates, I think that is how it is spelled I am not sure tho lol) goes don't use it all the time nor for long peroids of time if you plan on racing with the hold button on, becuase it will wear out your tranny faster. Your friends are right the regular 1,2,3 gears are used for towing as well as steep hills that require loads of braking and you want to cut down on braking so your brakes don't get to hot.
I normally use the hold button usually no more than 5 times a month and usually no longer than 30 milies.
Off the line racing I would say right now use the hold button as it will give you a bit more power than stock, but on a "rolling" start (ie your going at some speed and lined up with the other car) don't use it and just let the fuzzy logic do its magic. Most of my races are "rollling" starts which I tend to do better right due to the fact that my car has bearly one mod on it. Once I get more mods on the car I will have to re-learn the car and see what is better again.
What I ment by relearning is that the car will handle much different with each mod I put on the car. For example when I lower the car and put bigger tires the car will handle much differently than before so I have to relearn how much body lean the car has, how fast it reacts in turns, how it feels when I am going 65+, etc. That is what I ment. After I do all of the mods I want to do I will test to see how well the tripnotic does to normal auto driving and how the car does with the fuzzy logic.
Fuzzy Logic adjusts on-the-fly and has no memory; essentially, you are resetting it every time you drive it. Should your foot begin to get heavy on the gas pedal, the preset "Sport" mode will automatically adjust the shift-points. The engine is not affected by these modes. For instance, getting on the gas hard through the gears will enable the Sport to resist shifting until a higher RPM is reached. If you were to suddenly lift your foot off the gas and coast through an automatic downshift to a stop, your ECU will have reverted back to "Normal" mode. Moderately increase speed with a rather conservative acceleration will instantly enable "Economy" mode for earlier shiftpoints. All modes, as stated, operating on-the-fly.
The Hold button does two things, though its primary function is to enable the transmission to stay in the particular gear selected for as long as possible. Example: Travelling up a hill in Drive and there is not enough power to retain RPMs, the engine will downshift into 3rd; however, the speed of the car is causing the RPMs to climb rapidly, and the car shifts back into Drive rather soon. Selecting "Hold" in Drive will enable the car to stay in that particular gear much longer, preventing the downshift into 3rd and all of the gear-hunting annoyance of the transmission.
Using the Hold feature when manually rowing through the gate will not accomplish too much except to prevent the car from suddenly downshifting, or not shifting at all, when you select the next gear up. Its use will not determine what is good or bad for the transmission; rather, the frequency of hard driving is. Manually controlling the transmission is no worse than the transmission shifting on its own. The operation doesn't change, but the increased stress imposed on its operation is what ultimately affects it down the road.
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