Reno Has No Performance Parts?

[m120004]

Hey guys I need a question about my Reno I search everywhere on the internet
and there are no performance parts for it except for the universal muffler and that air twister thing.I was wondering if you know some intakes that will fit my engine and also tell me if i can turbo charge this and have dual mufflers?

[RoseAshe]

The Reno has really just hit and, in my area at least, is not putting enough volume sales yet. The are companies such as 360 Dynamics who are making/importing items that can be used on the Reno. http://www.360dynamics.ca/

Currently they are trying to get enough people to put down a deposit for a run on a nice underdrive pulley. Take a look around there and since our cars are daewoos, check out this forum too: http://www.daewootech.com/forum/index.php

[kinkyllama]

As Rose said the Pulley is about the best thing you could get for anycar, especialy our car for about the price of an cat-back exhaust.


Talking about exhaust.. thats another very restrictive thing on our cars. Go to a local (trustworthy) muffler shop and have them do 2-2.25inch piping from the cat back... have them remove the resantor and add a high flow muffler. You will see big gains from that and should cost under $200. Plus it sounds better


You can buy an intake for another car that has the throattle body facing upwards. Not really sure what cars ahve that. I thought the 01 civic did so i bought an intake for that car and it eneded up not working. Although i got it to work but it would get in the way of a strut brace

[LilSKirk23]

ok... well i currently am a suzuki forenza owner.... but anything that will work for the forenza will work for the reno (performance wise)..... check out forenzamotorsports.com and they have stage 1, 2 and 3 cais which will also work on the reno

[temporalwar]

GM/Holden Performance needs to make a D-TEC engine Supercharger Kit like they did for the Cavalier
just like new Cobalt SS runs!

(a factory auth kit would be great for us that have the 7 year bumper to bumper platinum wrap warranty)

[g2064]

hey check out my garage take a look a my custom cai kinda gives u an idea of what u can do while we wait for a perfect fit one o and leave some feeback thanks....!?

[djfourmoney]

First things first -

Delusions of Grandeur:

Can I turbocharge my Reno and have Dual Exhaust?

Reality Check:

You bought a Reno, its a Suzuki, it has no aftermarket to speak of.

That being said, what's in your wallet not withstanding, you can do anything your heart desires. But then harsh reality intrudes and you end up with crush bend dual exhaust system because shops with a mandrel bending machine are few and far between and charge a premium price to build cat-back systems, usually $300-$400 parts and labor included.

No doubt your one of the majority of Reno/Forzena owners that are close to dead broke, have a budding family (2 or less children under 10) or make less than $30K a year. Hardly the excellent starting point for modifying a car, trust me.

This is where 15 years of modifying compacts come into to play, read and learn -

1) You have several affordable choices for an CAI. 360 is offering pre-configured Spectre Modular Intake kits. If your the adventurous type, run down to your local Pep Boys or Autzone and pick up all the same parts and save a little bit on shipping.

You could go the chessy Ebay route as well and purchase a cheap 2000-2005 Honda Civic D-series warm air intake.

I highly recommend the Spectre route. Its well throught out, looks good and cheap. All good things.

2) 360 has seemed to corner the market on the Underdrive Pulley for Daweoo based Suzuki'

I'd would pick up one of those, again its cheap.

3) After the exhaust, pulley and intake route. Ask yourself a few questions -

a ) Do you like to be slow?

b ) Do you like to lose?

c ) Are 16 second 1/4 mile runs any fun?

If you answer NO of any or all of these (I would hope ALL), then you have only one answer - Nitrous Oxide.

Unless you have a considerable disposable income or have experience in tuning cars (judging by your post, I would say, very little experience), then I would leave the turbocharging ideas alone, as tuning and using nitrous oxide is far more forgiving than most people think and for sure CHEAPER. Perfect for the budding tuner in most of you.

I don't want to hear (read) any objections to nitrous based on some of the most ridiculous reasons known to man. They hold no water.

Face it, if you don't like to use nitrous, then you love being slow.

I've seen far too many budding turbo systems never come to fruition, result in poor performance, broken engines and lost of reliable transportation of indefant amounts of time.

Turbo systems seldom take less than several weeks and several hundreds of dollars to perfect. While Joe Turbo is out tweaking his ride and trying to get it not to buckle, surge, lean out, run overly rich or just plain blow his engine up, you'll be miles ahead with your nitrous system.

In most cases, you get equal performance for less money spent. Seldom are stock engines robust enough to handle enough boost to out run a well driven nitrous powered car. Most people have spent so much money on the turbo system, they can't get the power down effectively and loose by a WIDE margin at the strip or on the street.

I love turbocharging as much as the next guy, maybe even more, but Im not going to run 16 and 17 seconds in the 1/4 while I save money for that magical turbo system and reality all too often enters the picture when modifying your ride.

So to end this -

Bolt-ons, Nitrous and Sticky Tires (maybe a new clutch) will result in some serious performance gains and allow you to experience of owning a fast car on a budget, while you save for your next modification.

I did not write this to offend anybody, Im just telling it like it is.

[kinkyllama]

I agree with nitrous. I would still say turbo over nitrous but if you arnt good at tuning and catn do it yourself.. it would probably cost 3grand just to have the parts installed and the car tuned.

Oh and nothings really wrong with a crinkle bent exhaust that a muffler shop would give.. sures its not as good as mandrel bent but its close.


With CAI, UD pulley, exhaust, and sticky tires you can get into the 15s in the 1/4. I dont consider that slow, but nor do i consider it fast.

[djfourmoney]

Originally posted by RoseAshe@May 6 2005, 10:20 AM
The Reno has really just hit and, in my area at least, is not putting enough volume sales yet. The are companies such as 360 Dynamics who are making/importing items that can be used on the Reno. http://www.360dynamics.ca/

Currently they are trying to get enough people to put down a deposit for a run on a nice underdrive pulley. Take a look around there and since our cars are daewoos, check out this forum too: http://www.daewootech.com/forum/index.php

Quoted post

Cop Out -

Scion tC wasn't even in production and MANY things were available for it and modifed pre-production cars could be found all over the last 2 SEMA shows.

On top of that the Scion tC is an all new car, its not based on anything and only shares its engine with another Toyota. The Camry 2.4L DOHC engine doesn't have a deep following either, but honestly Daweoo as a car company has been using the same engines for at least 5 years if not longer with hardly ANYTHING available domestically.

Has a head even been on a flow bench yet?

Besides the Reno Rally car (yawn) where the other modified Renos and Forzenas at? I hope you don't mean those joke for a concept cars that Suzuki let somebody build.

No diss to the owners of the car, but c'mon Rallying to the general public is about as interesting as a tooth ache. America has a whole could give two shhh about the WRC as long as NASCAR owns the motorsport landscape and even less about the American rally culture.

They would have gotten more mileage out of building an all-out drag car since FWD doesn't make for a good drift car, that's your only other effective, media generating outlet for compact cars and even that is decreasing by the day.

But a really fast drag car would have earned Suzuki as a brand far more clout than building a couple of lukewarm concept cars and 2WD rally car has done so far. Notice that nobody is in a hurry to test drive Suzuki's Intimiator AUTOMATIC Reno concept car. Besides being dirt slow, it does actually look pretty good and better looking than the Reno that APC put together.

I'm not here to rain on the Reno/Forzena parade, but if you don't have aftermarket support in the begining, you have to earn it. I speak from experience.

Things in the aftermarket aren't handed too you, you have to show desire, interest and you show it with your dollars, not a pen and paper or emails.

Honestly 360 is too far removed from the US market to have any direct effect on the outcome of the Reno/Forzena aftermarket. The last Candaian to have an impact on American tuner culture was Cam W. with his turbocharged Capri swap'ed Festiva.

Notice how HOT that trend is?

Look, its simple. You want an aftermarket, you have to come correct or don't come at all.

You want a CAI from AEM or K&N? Show them your dollars!

By that I mean, get about 100 members of this board together (that shouldn't be hard, then again, I've never been suprised how hard it is to even get $10 from people that are broke in general), contact the company in question and make them an offer they can't refuse.

Offsetting production and development cost are MORE than welcome by the aftermarket which usually has to make up that cost by charging more for products and leads to general complaining, especially by those in the compact segment of the aftermarket (those with the least amount of disposible income).

I can put you in contact with the RIGHT PEOPLE to talk to at pretty much any of the aftermarket companies located in America, especially Southern California.

Too many people I have noticed in compact circles are only interested in #1, themselves. They could be giving something back or help in developing something for the car in question but usually keep alot of things to themselves and tell others to "figure it out yourself". You don't find this kind of behavior in the V8 world.

If you guys are serious about parts for the Reno, Forzena or even Aerio, contact me by PM. I'm developing a soft spot for Suzuki cars as they are generally unloved by the aftermarket, but show promising potential.

[djfourmoney]

Originally posted by kinkyllama@Jan 23 2006, 01:22 AM
I agree with nitrous. I would still say turbo over nitrous but if you arnt good at tuning and catn do it yourself.. it would probably cost 3grand just to have the parts installed and the car tuned.

Oh and nothings really wrong with a crinkle bent exhaust that a muffler shop would give.. sures its not as good as mandrel bent but its close.
With CAI, UD pulley, exhaust, and sticky tires you can get into the 15s in the 1/4. I dont consider that slow, but nor do i consider it fast.

Quoted post

I rather have somebody weld up a bunch of mandrel bends. Crush Bent exhaust stink, suck, whatever you want to use. You would gain more by replacing just the muffler on the Reno with a free-flowing unit, although unless well thought out results in a unreasonbly loud exhaust system and for sure a ticket from your local police or highway patrolmen.

I say turbo over nitrous only when you can afford it. Min $3,000, people have trouble spending $200.

Not to mention -

Clutch, Exhaust upgrade, larger injectors, tuning, drag radials or slicks, unless you like burning your tires off the line and a LSD if your serious about driving a boosted car quickly around a road course.

CAI, Pulley, Cam, Exhaust, Sticky Tires and Minor Weight reduction put my Neon into the 14's, makes about 140-145hp at the wheels.

Hard to believe a Reno/Forzena that run identical 0-60 times (9.3) and the automatic car runs 18's in the 1/4 (sticks run 17's), then how in the world does it run 15's with bolt-ons and drag radials?

Tires usually clean up the slow 60ft times. Those with little experience with drag radials or slicks result in basically disapointing 60ft times. At least the car would put that traction to use, because if your not aggressive with BFG's they will bog the motor.

Okay so I'll give you 3 tenths from the tires.

Where's the last 7 tenths of a seconds going to come from?

CAI, Pulley and Exhaust result in 25hp?

Going from C&D's review, it seems shifter bushings (and a short shifter) are in order for the Reno. Rubbery shifters and quick 1/4 times don't go together.

Maybe I need bug Suzuki for a car to develop, I would really hate myself I spent money to get one and try and develop parts on.

Then again, it is dirt cheap for a loaded car.... I'll really have to drive one.